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lsekken

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Post Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:14 pm

Need Help

Guys, I'm still a student, i already decided that I want to become a CEH in the future, however i don't where should I start. My professor told me that I needed to know many programming language.

Can you guys tell me where to start? Learning programming language or learn about computer itself first or any other?

tnx for the help
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superkojiman

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Post Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:06 pm

Re: Need Help

From your post, I gather that you're not very familiar with computers and programming? If that's the case, then you should probably build up that foundation first before you get into hacking computers. You need to be comfortable with networking, a couple of operating systems, and a handful of programming languages among other things. Depending on your learning pace and past experience, this could take a couple of years.

If you search this forum, you'll find that your question has been asked before, and there are some very detailed and helpful responses.
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lsekken

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Post Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:54 pm

Re: Need Help

thanks man.
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Post Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:31 pm

Re: Need Help

I think the bar to get started is a little lower than superkojiman puts it.  You need to understand basic networking and system administration.  You don't have to be an expert in either of those to start learning security, but you should understand how computers talk to each other and be able to setup a small network.  You should also understand the difference between regular users and administrators and be able to do basic configuration and setup for a workstation or server.  You will eventually want to learn Windows and Linux, but you could focus on one to start and then branch out when you're comfortable.

In general, programming is not a prerequisite to start learning about hacking or security, but it's helpful.  For getting into certain areas (e.g. web application security, exploit writing), it's very necessary.  Good languages to know include Unix shell scripts (e.g. bash), C and Perl or Python.  If you're focused on Windows, you may want to learn Powershell or a .NET language.  For web app security, you'll want to learn some HTML and Javascript and may also want to learn to develop web apps (in any language).

Please note that I'm addressing what you need to get started.  If you want to be really good, you will eventually have to develop quite a bit of expertise in system administration, networking and/or programming.  You can learn some of this side by side while you learn about security.

If you're just starting out and don't know a lot about computers yet, you probably should put security aside for a while until you're more competent with the rest. 

I don't know where to tell you to start for just learning more about computers.  Maybe an A+ study guide?  Does anyone else on the list have suggestions for that?

Are you in college?  Does your school have an IT, CS or MIS program?  Are you in it?
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Post Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:37 pm

Re: Need Help

We're tech people, therefore we're very specific. So I will assume your question is specific and give you a specific answer. Then I'll try to answer what I think you want to know.

CEH is a specific certification. You do not need to know programming to pass the exam for this specific certification (unless things have changed then please let me know).

If you want to be an ethical hacker, then you have multiple disciplines from which to choose such as pen testing, forensics, reverse engineering, etc. If you'd like to be a network pen tester as your profession, then knowing programming is a very good idea.

Hope this helps clarify a few things,
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:02 pm

Re: Need Help

Hi

I generally don't reply to these posts. I have seen posts like these. Many of them. The previous forum I am a member of.

People generally would create an account and then forget to check responses. In-fact I never had anyone check back post I wrote a page long suggestion or career advice.

I will make this an exception.

Start with Python - It is easy to learn high level language. Books are for free and so is the compiler. The basic to begin with.

Cheers!

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