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Post Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:51 am

Anyone know anything about locks ?

Hi All,

Does anyone know any good locks I am looking for a small bag lock but want it to be as secure as possible.

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Post Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:21 pm

Re: Anyone know anything about locks ?

Whilst you may get a really secure lock, how secure is the bag otherwise? If you can break the zip or put a knife through the bag the lock isn't going to help much if someone really wants to get in the bag.
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Post Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:01 pm

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kinda what m0wgli said. if you want to really secure stuff, use a hard case, and get like an abus padlock or something (be prepared to pay).
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Re: Anyone know anything about locks ?

Also really secure looking bag and lock could equal really nice things inside, take the bag and worry about getting in when you are in a safe place.  :D
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Thanks for the info guys :)
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:05 pm

Re: Anyone know anything about locks ?

rance wrote:kinda what m0wgli said. if you want to really secure stuff, use a hard case, and get like an abus padlock or something (be prepared to pay).


Down side to ABUS, pain to open without the key, unless you have bolt cutters. Friend used 2 going to defcon, and they were cut off by the TSA. At least they left the guns in the case alone.
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:54 pm

Re: Anyone know anything about locks ?

chrisj wrote:
rance wrote:kinda what m0wgli said. if you want to really secure stuff, use a hard case, and get like an abus padlock or something (be prepared to pay).


Down side to ABUS, pain to open without the key, unless you have bolt cutters. Friend used 2 going to defcon, and they were cut off by the TSA. At least they left the guns in the case alone.


TSA. *grumble*
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:21 pm

Re: Anyone know anything about locks ?

Heh it takes me roughly 1 minute or less to open the very small ABUS padlocks with lockpicking, and 2-5 minutes for the "Master" (brand) padlocks that costs around 20$

Those locks are generally not going to keep you secure, not even those that are "hardened" and fire proof, because most of them are barely protected against lockpicking.
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Keeps honest men honest.  Just like the laptop security cables that you can just rip out of the laptop.  Unless it is secured to the bored so it renders the laptop useless if you brute force it :D
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Doh, down side to playing with as many locks as I do. I said ABUS, was thinking Abloy. They were $80.00 abloy locks that got cut off. anyway if you get the right ABUS, they'll be disk locks too. HArder to open.

AS for the master locks, I think they're starting to make them better.. Locks I bought 2 years ago, I can get in, in under 10 seconds. Stuff I bought last year, takes me about 1 minute. Locks I bought for Maker Faire Detroit's Lock Pick Village this year, 3 to 5 minutes each.
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chrisj wrote:Doh, down side to playing with as many locks as I do. I said ABUS, was thinking Abloy. They were $80.00 abloy locks that got cut off. anyway if you get the right ABUS, they'll be disk locks too. HArder to open.

AS for the master locks, I think they're starting to make them better.. Locks I bought 2 years ago, I can get in, in under 10 seconds. Stuff I bought last year, takes me about 1 minute. Locks I bought for Maker Faire Detroit's Lock Pick Village this year, 3 to 5 minutes each.


Funny, I meant Abloy as well.  Padlocks... they're my kryptonite.  For some reason, I think the spring just screws with my tension technique too much. I can only pick through about a third of my padlock collection. *pout*
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:26 am

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So we saying ABUS are the best lock to get but they come at a price
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Jamie.R wrote:So we saying ABUS are the best lock to get but they come at a price


No Abloy. you can get them from security snobs, they can even set up master key systems for you. so you can have one key that opens all your locks, and sub keys that only open some sets.
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Re: Anyone know anything about locks ?

Just a note if you are traveling by air in the USA the TSA only allows you to use certain approved locks;

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/locks.shtm
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DataDwarf wrote:Just a note if you are traveling by air in the USA the TSA only allows you to use certain approved locks;

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/locks.shtm


After the post by chrisj about his friend having his padlocks cut by the TSA, my initial thought was WTF. However, some quick research into the TSA revealed that this is common practice.

I also came across the information about approved locks you posted. Whilst looking into this further, I was surprised about the number of people complaining about using TSA approved locks and still having them cut.
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