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Is python needed? Bash enough?

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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:58 am

Is python needed? Bash enough?

Hi, I'm waiting to start and I'm scheduled for Saturday to start with the OSCP. What a long wait !!!

My questions: I know Bash Programming and I'm wondering, is it really needed to pick up Python to have no problems in the course? Can you easily succeed with making your scripts in bash instead of using Python ?

If needed and I get some confirmations from people here I'll just heads down Python until I get the docs on Saturday.

Great forum here,

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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:23 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

I've been on the OSCP course for a couple of weeks, so far I've only used a little python and mostly bash scripts. From what I've seen any python you need you should be able to find on Google so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:30 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

I recently attened a con in the UK and Python was the top thing to learn. the survey was done by pentester and he asked other pen testers.

This maybe useful :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSrF3VGUrR0
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:45 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Was that's Robin's talk on "Breaking into Security"?? It was a good talk and long term learning a programming language is a good idea (I'm learning python) but for the OSCP course I don't think it's something to worry too much about.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:48 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Unless the material has changed since I did offsec, you will need python for some of the fuzzing/BO modules/challenges, so spend time going through the (good) introduction videos and lab notes.

Don't worry about it too much though, if you can understand the code enough to edit the examples to suit your purpose it should be sufficient. If you've already got a good handle on the bash side you should be fine.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:52 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Yah it was Robin talk it was very good and shocking at same time as was not expecting the result he got.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:56 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Thanks Folks! Watching Robin Wood now !
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:16 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Whatever it takes to get the job done!

Just be able to read python and know what is going on in an exploit script.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:29 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

I think its good idea to know python

securitytube offer a course there is also a website called codeacademy or somthing that offer free course too.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:43 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Python is easy enough to pick up that you should learn it anyway. You probably won't need anything overly advanced, but you should be able to write some simple scripts that use sockets.
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:16 pm

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

I mainly program in Java and C.. when first looking at Python, seriously its ridiculously  easy, at the same time it helps a lot. in other words, its a bonus! the only thing I am not sure about is bash. It would be great if someone could provide some links for that
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Post Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:55 pm

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

I'd recommend at least a peripheral understanding of python. You don't need to be fluent but a lot of the material in OSCP is in python as are the exploits in backtrack.

A high level search of the exploitdb in backtrack showed that there are roughly 2000 in c and 900 a piece for python & ruby.
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Post Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:22 am

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Some grest resources there YuckTheFankees There are lots more online too.
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Post Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:31 pm

Re: Is python needed? Bash enough?

Thanks, I picked up that Python step by step and it's ok. The sockets implementation on Python is really a great thing and very useful.
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