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Post Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:57 am

Hello World Computer Programming - What Next?

So based off of the reccomendations on the forum (thanks everyone!) I picked up this book.  It has been awesome so far and I have been breezing through it.  What python book should I look to after this one?  I realize I will be no where near being a pro and looking for some suggestions....
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Post Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:53 am

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dive into python. you can even read it for free.
http://diveintopython.org/

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http://diveintopython3.org/
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Post Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:35 am

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@the_Grinch: What do you want to achieve with python programing? Do you want to write simple scripts to handle daily tasks or are you looking at developing applications?

I am asking because we may guide you in a different way, depending on what your goal is...  ;)
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Post Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:50 pm

Re: Hellow World Computer Programmin - What Next?

Thanks I will check out Dive into Python.  My ultimate goal is to do all of the above and ultimately look into exploit development.  I realize Python probably won't be the end all be all for exploit development, but for now being able to automate tasks and write programs would be awesome!  Thanks again!
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Post Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:19 pm

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It's not out yet, but soon look for:

Coding for Penetration Testers
Building Better Tools 
By Jason Andress  &  Ryan Linn

http://www.elsevierdirect.com/ISBN/9781 ... on-Testers

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Post Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:31 pm

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Don:

    Thanks for this, will definitely buy it as soon as it comes out.  Thanks again for all the help everyone!
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Post Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:30 am

Re: Hellow World Computer Programmin - What Next?

My ultimate goal is to do all of the above and ultimately look into exploit development.


@the_Grinch: Starting with playing around with python is a pretty good idea. I suggest you start with the "Penetration Testing with Backtrack" course from Offensive-Security if you want to go for exploit development. They have a nice way of explaining how to write exploits.

Security Tube (http://www.securitytube.net/video/231) has a pretty good (and free!) tutorial on how to exploit buffer overflow.

But to be able to write more complex exploits, look for "Cracking the Perimeter" from Offensive-Security. You will need some basic knowledge of assembly language to succeed. Assembly is much more complex than Python, but it can be learned by humans!  ;)
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Post Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:59 pm

Re: Hello World Computer Programming - What Next?

Great information, thanks everyone!  I have a plan of attack, with a set of goals I'd like to accomplish prior to going after OCSP.

1.  Finish my CCNA (ICND2 is the test I need to complete)
2.  Complete Linux+ (I know a fair amount of linux stuff, but Linux+ with LPIC should get me where I need to be)
3.  Continuing working on Python and start BASH scripting
4.  Complete MCITP:SA (I work with Windows servers and would like to do Windows Security, so figure this should be completed).
5.  Maybe complete MCITP:Virtualization (I work with Hyper-V a lot as well)
6.  Purchased eCPPT awhile ago, so I will complete that

On top of that, I have a reading list I plan on completing in that time:

Wireshark Network Analysis
NMAP Network Scanning
Human Hacking
Backtrack 4
Grayhat Hacking 3rd Edition
Thor's Microsoft Security Bible (haven't purchased yet)
Shell Coder's Handbook (haven't purchased yet)
Metasploint Unleashed (haven't purchase yet)

I figure I am looking about a year and a half, maybe two years to get where I would like to be before OCSP.  Then I go through in some C/C++ and ASM to rock CTP.  Thanks again!
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Post Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:13 am

Re: Hello World Computer Programming - What Next?

If you want to learn exploit development you're gonna have to learn C eventually, and possibly Assembly. Python will also be useful. But I would suggest reading Gray Hat Python for this.
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:15 pm

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What exactly did you learn from this book, because i was thinking about getting this book for my birthday and don't want to get it if it was tooooooo basic!
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Post Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:08 pm

Re: Hello World Computer Programming - What Next?

I didn't get to complete it just yet as I reviewed TMSB and am finishing my CCNA.  That being said, I read through the first 7 chapters and while a little basic, I think ultimately you will jump into some advanced topics.  Overall, I'd say it is a great introduction to Python and you could probably knock it out in a weekend.  Would make a great birthday gift!  Gotta crawl before you walk...
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Post Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:49 pm

Re: Hello World Computer Programming - What Next?

You should get the python for the absolute beginner :o http://amzn.to/riJDpE

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