I tend to lean the same way, chrisj. Most bootcamps I have attended (read 5-day intense courses) have always been geared to pass a certification exam, but only serve as a baseline intro to the real 'meat and potatoes' of the actual subject matter. The only real experience-garnering cert bootcamp I took class for was OSCP, and that's because they actually force you to self-study and work for it. Even the infamous CISSP classes are highly condensed, and obviously focused on passing the exam, as there is way too much info to really 'learn' and comprehend, in such short amounts of time. While yes, certs will get you past resume keyword searches, they certainly won't get you past a real, technical interview, simply by themselves.
It's a cold, hard fact that there are a lot of 'paper' certified individuals out there... Case in point (and if any of you fall into this category, my apologies if it offends,) at many customers I deal with, the network folks (read CCNA/CCNP, etc) have only book knowledge, and fight tooth and nail against my analysis, forcing me to prove out things that, for a 'real' network person, should be common sense. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of real, true certified folks, too. Just that the 'paper' ones are detrimental to good business and productivity.
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