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Post Sun May 02, 2010 6:39 pm

How did you get into hacking?

Hi! I'm David C. and I'm doing a research project about hacking as a school assignment for my high school English class.

I just want to know about how you guys got into hacking and why you guys are ethical hackers - income, moral reasons, or just because you think hacking is fun.

I know a lot of people are hacking for personal gain now, and I want your opinions on that, and whether hacking can be used positively in some way (other than hacking to defend yourself from other hackers)

Thanks in advance for your replies and help!
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Post Sun May 02, 2010 6:40 pm

Re: How did you get into hacking?

To Moderator - I'm not sure where to put this, so if its in the wrong spot, could you move it?
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Post Sun May 02, 2010 8:10 pm

Re: How did you get into hacking?

First experience with hacking:

Was shown a vulnerability in (I believe) the old Fido BBS software that would allow someone to log in as any user. 1200 bps modems FTW! From then on, life and computers had a different meaning to me beyond the typical BS reasons were heard about the value of computers, such as "storing recipes" and "writing papers." It became sharing information (which I considered edgy at the time, but now seems tame) and being amazed at (and trying to imagine the number of hours required to make) ASCII porn. For those of you way too young to know what I'm talking about, visit http://www.asciipr0n.com/pr0n/ (Rated "R" for "Retro").

(Personal Note: Can't WAIT to hear if you include an example of the ASCII in your report for school).

As for what motivated me, it was simply information. Back then, there was no money to be made shuffling information, unless you set up some BBS subscription service, but that never made sense, since all the same information was flowing around the BBSes anyway (you might have to wait for it to be transferred to your local BBS, which could take days... DAYS!!!!!) As for morality, there just wasn't any sense of illegality with what was happening. Nobody thought about copyrights at that time (except perhaps Bill G.). Oh, and we all hated AOL. Still do.

Now, we're in a completely different world. My 2 cents.
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 8:12 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

I received a threatening email from a jealous ex-boyfriend of a girl I dated in high school (the same guy was also trying to impersonate multiple people over IM). It started out with curiosity of reading email headers and tracing IM connections and eventually into all sorts of different tools - trojans, keyloggers, packers etc. Script kiddie stuff? Totally. I surely didn't just turn on the computer one day and understand code and protocols, or half of what I was doing. Of course, I'm not sure I understand half the stuff I do nowadays either :-p
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 8:57 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

It was just one of the things on my "to-do" list. Back then I used to think that it would be so cool being called a h4x0r. Then, one day I read an article in a newspaper about a 20 yrs. old boy who had started a security company with his friends. These people were doing security work for Microsoft, Symantec and Infosys. That's when I thought that if these people can do it then so can I. I started taking IT Security as a viable career path after then and started learning and practicing a lot of stuff.  It was difficult initially. I just didn't know whom to approach but after a little guidance things started feeling easier and I'm satisfied with the kind of progress I've made. It also helped that I'm studying engineering (CSE).

I still have that article and if anyone care to read it, it's here
http://www.securitybrigade.com/images/m ... 12_008.jpg
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 9:59 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

I got a job working at one of the original backbone providers when the internet was privatized. The one I worked at was spam friendly, thought they could control the spammers. So we were attacked a lot.

After there, I learned how to use tunnels to by-pass firewalls and filters. One of my jobs included being the administrator on the sniffers (network general, running redhat 7).

Left there, came to where I'm at now, and because I had the other backgrounds got to take over the security of the network (the guy doing it got fed up with me getting around everything he'd try to stop me).

Mostly I'm here to learn more skills to improve the security of my network.
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 12:43 pm

Re: How did you get into hacking?

May be you should look into this thread also - http://www.ethicalhacker.net/component/ ... /#msg22605

Similar threat titled - How you got into hacking?
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 5:02 pm

Re: How did you get into hacking?

Thanks people!

To the ASCII porn link - I don't see it sorry :P
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 5:22 pm

Re: How did you get into hacking?

DavidC wrote:To the ASCII porn link - I don't see it sorry :P


No?... then GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
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Post Mon May 03, 2010 6:59 pm

Re: How did you get into hacking?

DavidC wrote:To the ASCII porn link - I don't see it sorry :P


lol.. you probably need to click a little further :-p Try clicking 'pinups' near the bottom and then choose at random, I'm sure you'll see it then.

That is pretty funny. I had no idea what you were talking about but after glancing at the link I had a good laugh. And yeah, how many hours were put into creating those? Damn.
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Post Tue May 04, 2010 6:41 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

ASCII porn! I didn't even know something like this existed. It's actually very lolable  ;D
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Post Tue May 04, 2010 7:01 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

For me, I have always been amazed by what "real hackers" could do to compromise a system. By far the number one reason why I am now working in this field is the ingenuity of other people. I admire how people could think outside the box and come up with these ways of hacking systems.

So for me, it was just plain curiosity until I allowed myself to start studying.

And now, my goal is to find a clever idea to!  ???
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Post Tue May 04, 2010 7:37 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

Mine just stemmed from a long-time 'need' to understand how things work.  As a young kid, I always liked debugging code from other people, and had a knack for finding coding flaws and mistypes.  The challenge intrigued me, in trying to better someone else's stuff, or even just fix their mistakes, so I could use the programs.  Later, when I graduated school, I began working for a couple of retail shops, and saw how they misconfigured things, as well as leaving mgmt passwords lying around, etc.  I worked hard, and engaged the right people, to show them the value of a more secure environment.  It just continued to grow from there, to where now, I work for a large software company, and have opportunities to show value in both pentesting our own products, as well as showing my customers (and sometimes co-workers) where they're lacking in their overall security postures, in general.

Additionally, I do a lot of security training and speaking on the side, and use ethical hacking as a base point, to show others the value of proactive security analysis, rather than reactive.
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Post Tue May 04, 2010 10:03 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

Like many other people, I was always intrigued by programming and how software and hardware worked.  I then started reading about hackers and how they took advantage of programmer's mistakes to make the software do something it wasn't intended to do.  To me, it was the ultimate thinking outside the box scenario.   

I think that the first "hacking" experience for me was changing a few hex values in a saved game of the DOS version of Prince of Persia to give myself lots of life-lines. 
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Post Tue May 04, 2010 11:16 am

Re: How did you get into hacking?

Hmm I just like to understand how things work. I've been programming for a while and always wanted to understand the inner workings. I never allowed myself to really dive in until we had a project about security at college.

I've always been fascinated by hackers and hacker stories lol.
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