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[Article]-Review: eLearnSecurity’s Penetration Testing Pro (PTP)

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Post Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:31 am

Re: [Article]-Review: eLearnSecurity’s Penetration Testing Pro (PTP)

Hello Chris,
Having taken the OSCP and GPEN, it's a strain to convince the powers that be to let me on another similar pentest course, but they seems happy to let me take a run at targeted training.


Don't believe we are similar to OSCP, honestly. Not saying we are better or worse. It's just another (completely) different way of teaching things.


Do you have any time lines on the Web Application Security stand alone course being made available?


At now I'm not able to give you time lines. The Beginner version of our PTP course will be a never seen course and it is taking its time.
However I believe the web app testing part of our current PTP course is quite a good amount of information!

Check our demo to see your self, it is on Web app testing
Btw Introductory price expires in 12 hours - Regular price will be 449€ ($599)
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Hello Armando,

I really enjoyed reviewing the course demo on SQL injection, it is nicely put together, very clear and flows well. I think I learnt a couple of words in Italian too!

I can believe your course is different to both SANS and Offensive Security's offering, my trouble is pitching those differences to management so they can understand and sign off the training.

My process is to do a brief summary of a course I'd like to take and note the key points of what I expect to learn and be able to use in my job after the training. Sadly, my boss is pretty astute and would notice the similarities of the course structures to the other two.

The Web application security course is a much easier sell as it is a specialization and therefore more focused on providing particular skills. Plus it fits in with current buzz about web 2.0 the CIO likes to mention in meetings :-)

I'd love to take this course at some point, as I'm a firm believer in great training makes me excited about learning and understanding different approaches while still developing my knowledge and skills. Perhaps I'll pitch it to someone else when my boss is next on leave for a month ;-)

I wish you and the team great success with the course as quality training such as this creates better security professionals and that's no bad thing for the industry.
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Post Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:59 am

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You make interesting points.
I should create that document for you, to illustrate how we differ from other similar courses.

For what concerns web application testing course I will make sure to have it out asap but just cannot guarantee any date  :)

I really appreciate your interest in our course, if you've entered your email on our site you will be notified of all the future releases (and eventually get discount copons as well).
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Post Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:47 am

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Thanks for your efforts Jason, nice review.
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This is very interesting, You release a new training (call it basic or standard) and during the reviews and different conversations a new product had born for you, The Web Application Testing. You got a mine gold here, you did not need to pay marketing to discover it.

Great.

I have your training in my list. Takes some time when you pay with your own money.
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@impelse  ;D
Shhtt  :-X...Ec-council may be reading  8)
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Post Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:34 am

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Thanks Jason, for once again writing an extremely useful review!

And hat's off @ eLS, getting that kind of praise right after going live, that's gotta mean something!

I do have a similar question as Hayabusa.
I'm currently saving up for my first cert (although it will be a while), and obviously I am now confronted with the choice between OffSec's PWB and this one.
Jason: you did both of them I think. Any thoughts?
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Post Thu May 27, 2010 3:23 pm

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Hi Armando,

I'm looking to purchase this course before the 31st deadline & beat the price increase. I just wanted to get the 5% also but no discount coupon has come through??? I've completed the CEH & OSCP courses so will look forward to this one also.

thanks in advance
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Post Thu May 27, 2010 11:32 pm

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@SJF1978
You just have to click the eLearnsecurity banner at EHNet and provide your email at their website to get your 5% discount coupon.

eLearnsecurity has also come up with a subscription plan where you pay some monthly fee ($249+$200+$200) and you'll get one domain each month.
http://www.elearnsecurity.com/course/pe ... iption.php
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I did and I got the mail saying the discount code will be in the next mail. But could'nt see one?
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Post Sat May 29, 2010 1:18 am

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Try contacting Armando using their contact page http://www.elearnsecurity.com/contactus.php or contact him via twitter @elearnsecurity.
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Post Sat May 29, 2010 9:52 am

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Hello
Thanks to EquiX3n for the announcement of the subscription plan
http://www.elearnsecurity.com/course/pe ... iption.php.

This confirms all our efforts to make great training affordable even if you pay out of your pocket. Hope you appreciate it  ;D

Also I would like to update you on our latest improvements to the course as per Jason's suggestions:
  • Social Engineering and SET
  • Pass the hash
  • A number of smaller improvements

The above are included in our upcoming release (1.1).
Of course, All our students will get this update for free.

I'm also getting a bunch of (very respectable) forum members who have studied the course produce small comparisons with other similar courses.
These will appear on our site soon as well.

Thanks a lot to anyone in this forum for the lovely support and interest given  to our project
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Post Sat May 29, 2010 10:44 am

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@Armando Just checked your website. The link to EHNet in the main page is broken. Hope you correct it ASAP.
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Post Sat May 29, 2010 10:49 am

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Oops. :o Thank you!
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Post Sat May 29, 2010 11:36 am

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Got my code & paid my silver...  8) Looking forward to the course... I'll let everyone know how it goes
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