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Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

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petergibons

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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:02 am

Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

Hello,

I would like to help to get the law changed in MI, regarding the need for a PI license to perform computer forensics. If there are people in MI that feel the same way, let's get together and change this.

We have been at the edge of pursuing computer forensics, however the state's licensing puts the stop to it. The PI law needs to be changed.

Thanks,

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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:25 am

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

Peter,

I forgot about this. Argh. Got a list of people to start contacting to get change going?
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:36 am

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

There are a few states that have similar laws. My company does not currently do business in MI, but we ran into some issues in TX and North Carolina before.  Looks like North Carolina fixed their though.  Hopefully, Michigan will follow.

http://ridethelightning.senseient.com/2009/08/north-carolina-exempts-computer-forensics-experts-from-pi-licensing.html
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Post Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:02 pm

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

The TX thing was pretty crazy:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2324217,00.asp

Anyone know if that ever got resolved?
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Post Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:37 pm

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

I believe that they are still working on the relevant laws.  I think it's still a mess though.  My company hasn't done much work in Texas since this mess came about.  Even our ex-law enforcement forensics people with CFCE certifications weren't legally able to do work in Texas. 

http://www.blackfistsecurity.com/2009/04/pi-license-for-forensic-work-in-texas.html

I remember reading about people getting out tickets issued by cameras because the new laws dictated that the camera operators needed PI licenses. 
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Post Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:40 pm

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

Yes the law should be changed. I hate to think after completeing my education I will need to also get a PI license.  That sucks.

Besides we're not cops or investigators we just retrive data by any means
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Post Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:52 pm

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

Puddn, computer forensics is not simply retrieving data in my opinion.  It is investigation of computer crimes and misuse.  The problem with PI licenses is that they hardly relate to computer forensics.  There are certifications that far better show competency. 
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Post Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:47 pm

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

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I doubt it's less about competency, and more about bonding issues.
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Post Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:09 pm

Re: Michigan PI License needed for computer forensics

chrisj wrote:I doubt it's less about competency, and more about bonding issues.


It is more like the PI lobbyists working to get more work for PI's without regard for actually doing the job effectivly.
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