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Post Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:33 am

Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security

Hi

Me again asking about course comparisons! Which course would you guys recommend out of Intermediate Penetration Testing Course – Version 2 and Offensive Security Pentesting with Backtrack?

Any thoughts welcome  :)
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Post Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 am

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I think that the OSCP is more widely known and respected.

Give the Heorot more time and it will become more recognised.
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Post Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:14 pm

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I can only speak for OSCP and it kicks ass! I highly recommend it.
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Post Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:30 am

Re: Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security

I second Vedder's post.
Although the course from Heorot is probably good as well, it is not as known as OSCP. If you have any specific questions about Heorot you can ask Grendel here at the forums, who's the author of it. ;)
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Post Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:51 am

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Thanks for the replies, i have to admit i have been looking at the OSCP for a while now and was going to go for it before i saw the Heorot intermediate course.  What enticed me towards the Heorot course is that the course description includes the Application of the OSSTMM within a penetration test and Detailed coverage of how to document your results, which are important things you need to know to become a pen tester (which is my aim).

I don't think the OSCP covers this?
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Post Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:53 am

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Although i have noticed that EH is now reviewing the OSCP course so could now just wait and see what is said and then decide!  :)
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Post Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:57 am

Re: Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security

I second T_Bone.

Infact I am also looking for some resource and/or course that presents PT from a business point of view. For example, Engagement Model for a Pen Test, Agreements and Documents that needs to be prepared before the test, deliverables etc.
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I have also worked out an arrangement with grendel for jhaddix to review the upcoming v2 of the course. Then we can have some real discussions with reviews of all the major courses out there. I'm going to start a new thread getting opinions on reviews.

Stay tuned,
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Post Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:06 pm

Re: Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security

Manu Zacharia (-M-) wrote:I second T_Bone.

Infact I am also looking for some resource and/or course that presents PT from a business point of view. For example, Engagement Model for a Pen Test, Agreements and Documents that needs to be prepared before the test, deliverables etc.


I just completed the Sans GPEN560 and that topic is covered quite well.
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GPEN is good, Heorot covers some additional logistics. Its very hard to compare. I haven't gotten the chance to see the new training yet though, looking forward to reviewing it.
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Jhaddix wrote:GPEN is good, Heorot covers some additional logistics. Its very hard to compare. I haven't gotten the chance to see the new training yet though, looking forward to reviewing it.


Yeah GPEN sounds good but unfortunately is out of my budget (unless i manage to get another facilitator position as i did for the GCIH)
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don wrote:I have also worked out an arrangement with grendel for jhaddix to review the upcoming v2 of the course. Then we can have some real discussions with reviews of all the major courses out there. I'm going to start a new thread getting opinions on reviews.

Stay tuned,
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Thanks Don, that is great news, looking forward to it!
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Re: Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security

Jhaddix wrote:GPEN is good, Heorot covers some additional logistics. Its very hard to compare. I haven't gotten the chance to see the new training yet though, looking forward to reviewing it.


I am really looking forward to seeing a comparison.
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Post Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:23 pm

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Wow, now there is another potential candidate... ELearnSecurity to be released soon! This is excellent news but now adds to the confusion of which "affordable" course to take as SANS, etc are too expensive to afford if you are paying out of your own pocket!

Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security and eventually elearnsecurity!

Now I really do not know, but at least the comparison of the first two will help initially!
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Post Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:26 pm

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My Other problem is, if i dare try and perform each of these courses, all the time will probably result in me being single! .... i am sure my partner would be very un-impressed!
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