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Post Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:58 pm

CEH Exam Readiness?

I've been studying for the CEH on and off since Dec of 2007.  I have a busy schedule and busy home life so I have to study when I have time.  I've scheduled the exam about 5 times in the last 2 months and I just keep pushing it back.  I'm supposed to take it Thursday morning, but I'm leaning towards pushing it back again.  I've read the Wiley Prep book cover to cover and I'm skimming it.  I also created a 22 page study guide of all the tools in it that I have yet to review.  I read the Official CEH study guide cover to cover twice.  I took the exams that came with both CDs and did OK on them.  I have the experience/self-study voucher, I've got my CISSP certififcation and an expired CCNA.  I'm really struggling with being ready though.  I don't really have time to play with all of the tools listed in the book.  My take is that I can learn them when/if I need to use them, but for my job it's just best that I know that they tools exist and so I can protect against them being used maliciously.  Any suggestions?
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:26 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

It sounds like you're well prepared.

I don't have specific experience with the Wiley prep book, but I have glanced it over once or twice in the store. I'll try to take a look at it tomorrow to give you a better analysis on that. I highly recommend that people read the Official CEH Study Guide, which you've apparently done. That alone should prepare you pretty well for the exam. It obviously only touches the surface compared to what the CEH courseware covers. I also have not tried any of the practice exams on the CDs, so I can't speak for those.

As for your 22-page tool study guide, it's not needed. The test will cover several of the more important tools, there is no way it could possibly cover all of the tools mentioned in the courseware. Focus on what's in the study guide and make sure you're familiar with running them from a command-line (eg. nmap and netcat switches).

Most of all, relax :) Take your time (you've got plenty). When I took it, I marked every question that I wasn't 100% sure of. That way when I got to the end, I knew that anything not marked was correct. I had plenty of time to go back through all of my marked questions and it paid off. I made several changes after re-reading the questions compared to my initial answers, you have to be careful on some of them.

Good luck and let us know how it goes :)

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Post Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:39 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

OK, well I think I will postpone a few more weeks.  Let me know what you think of the Wiley book.  My decision to postpone is so I can spend some more time getting to know some of the more important tools and commands.  The official study guides lists those for some of the more important tools and in reviewing them the switch was fairly intuitive.  With the way I study, to feel really ready I think I need a full evening and morning of committing info to memory.  I just have to find a day that I can allocate this concentrated study time to and then just sit down and do it.  Maybe in a few weeks.  I hate making excuses, but I just want to make sure I pass the first time.  It does sound like I am prepared, but feeling that way is another story.
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Post Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:11 am

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Haha.. yeah I completely understand. I was pretty nervous when clicking that 'submit exam' button at the end... then not seeing any response for a minute.. ugh.

I can't imagine how it feels after the CISSP exam and not finding out for a couple weeks.

Another good source for information is the ExamPrep book by Michael Gregg. It's a little older/dated now, but the material is still very relevant and helpful for the most recent CEH exam.

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Post Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:29 am

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Ok, I just skimmed through the first 5 chapters of the Wiley Prep Guide. It looks very good, with a lot of good diagrams and overviews of the tools. It also looks like it lists a good majority of the tools you'll find in the courseware but doesn't talk much about them other than what they are used for (which is good).

I read through a random assortment of the assessment questions at the end of the chapters as well and they are good, pretty reflective of the types of questions you'll see on the CEH exam. I would imagine the CD questions are similar.

I would say if you've taken your time and gone through this Prep Guide as well as the Official Study Guide, you should be well prepared.

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Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

The test really isn't that bad.  I sweated bullets when I went in to take the test.  150 questions is enough to kill an avid test taker, let alone someone my age that hasn't took a test in years.  The amount of questions you are asked and the length of time it takes to complete is the worst part about the test.

I wouldn't keep putting it off.  If you have studied everything you stated, you will be fine.  Lose the fear of not being ready, that will effect you on test day.  YOU ARE READY.

I found during the test I was trying to read faster and answer quickly just to get the dang thing over with.  I finally realized what I was doing and slowed myself down, relaxed a little and finished the test in about 1 1/2 hours.

I guess the luck of the draw give me a few hard questions right off the bat and that kind of made me paranoid about the other 140 questions left.  Then it started getting easy for me after about the first 10 questions.  As I started seeing a bunch of questions I actually knew the answer too, I was fine after that.

As BillV did, I marked questions I wasn't sure about...THE FIRST 10..lol  I then went back, being calmed than when I first started and answered those questions.

I scored 91% on my test.  If I can do it, you can also.  If you keep putting it off in fear of not being ready, you will never take the test.  Again, its really not that bad if you have studied.  Good Luck on your test.

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Post Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:39 am

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

The one thing I learned after the test, is that it is just to wet your appetite. I had trouble the first time after taking the class. I then sat down with some of the study material listed here. I took the practice exams all the time. When I finally went back for the exam, I passed. It was a great relief after hitting the submit button to see a passing result. With doing fine on the practice exams, I would say you should be in good shape. Don't dwell too much on the tools, but understand the principles behind them. Good luck.
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Post Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:42 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Thank you for all of the feedback.  I took a few weeks off so I am back to studying this week and plan to sit for the exam Friday morning.  I'm pretty good at learning book material, but agian, I wish I had the time to tinker with the the tools more.

The CISSP was a beast.  I studied on and off for a year for it.  Read the Shon Harris guide cover to cover and then watched the Shon Harris DVD set.  Then I actually went to a 6 day long bootcamp review, stayed up all night the night of the exam and then took the exam on no sleep.  This is how I take every exam and how I took exams in college as well.  I'm used to it and it makes me feel more prepared.  You don't know how long that exam is until it's over.  I finished it in 2.5 hours.  My entire bootcamp class had the attitude of we could have passed it or failed it.  I only know of 1 guy that didn't pass from my class and he was the only one that said he thought it was easy. ;)  It's good to have that one behind me.

I'll post after the exam on Friday.....
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Post Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:57 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Good luck!! :)
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:59 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

I took the exam today and wow.....was I expecting something different.  I could not believe how long the questions were.  Most were multiple paragraphs in length because they were describing the situations setting you up for the actual question.  The practice exams on the CD from the Official Review Guide didn't closely mirror the actual exam, but some of the questions from the CD were helpful. 

My advice to anyone that is going to take this exam is to get hands on with all the tools the Official Review guide says you will need to have knowledge of for the exam.  Being familiar with tools switches and the resulting output would have been a huge help.  I went into it just wanting to gain the information about what's out there with regards to hacking tools and how the tools are being used in real world hacks.  I should have gotten more hands on knowledge and I realize that now. 

The test took me 2.5 hours.  There were about 10 that I had to go back and review and a few others that I changed from my original decision.  I submitted the exam and waited to see a disappointing score only to find that I passed!  I was shocked and more than that.....relieved.  For me, the CEH exam was just under the CISSP in difficulty because of all of the tools and technical information thrown at you.  Maybe if you go to the official CEH class the instructors tell you what to key on and when they go through the material they may give you the "wink wink...you may want to pay attention to this", but the self study route without the tools or practical exercises was probably not the right route to take in my opinion.  If your a security admin dealing with IDS rule files and router ACLs regularly, the test should be much easier.  They say the CISSP is "an inch deep and a mile wide" across all of IT security, while the CEH has a little more focus on the network and OS sides, but for me, there wasn't much seperation between the difficulty of the 2 exams.
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:40 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Congratulations! Nice work and thanks for the writeup.

Yeah, some of the questions are a little lengthy. As others have posted elsewhere, the CEH is a bad exam to use practice tests for. Whether those are official from review CD's or "braindumps," you're better off using either the courseware or the official study guide and getting to know the important tools (as you've found out). The review questions at the end of chapters that are focused on specific objectives are usually more helpful, but in my experience the "practice tests" on the CD's will put you in the wrong direction.

Glad to hear that you passed though and again, congrats :)

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Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

My final question is, what do I get?  Is EC-Council going to send me an e-mail with a bunch of info stating I can now use the CEH as part of my title and that they will be sending me a more formal certificate of completion?  I know what Cisco and the ISC provide, but not sure about EC-Council.

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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:11 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Hey AJ,

First, don't expect anything quick. EC-Council is known for taking their full 8 weeks when they say '6 - 8 weeks.'

So long as nothing has changed, you'll receive a folder that includes your welcome letter containing your membership ID and your registration code for the EC-Council certification portal, a stapled packet about logo usage guidelines and your CEH certification (looks like the sample here: http://eccouncil.org/certificate.htm). I think the CEH kit includes the bootable "Business Card Linux" cd, but it's pretty useless :P

Hope that answers your questions :)

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Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

Hey all,

I just recently started to study for the CEH exam and was wondering if anyone could give my any pointers?

Thanks all.
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Post Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:32 pm

Re: CEH Exam Readiness?

We try to point all newcomers to the following:

- The first 2 sticky topics in the Network Pen Testing Board: An Ethical Hacker must have these skills... & Where and how to gain knowledge?
- So You Want to Hack for a Living? (Pardon the personal plug. It covers version 4 but is still relevent.)

If after reading this stuff and you begin your studeies, you then have some specific questions, by all means start a new thread.

Hope this helps,
Don

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