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Dismantling a Fraudulent Website - HELP Rewarded!

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Senss

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Post Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:55 am

Dismantling a Fraudulent Website - HELP Rewarded!

Hello EH Community,  we are really new on this but recently we've been stolen a significant amount by an very organized people that screens as a big corporation on the internet.
We would like to trace this people in order to make them stop their fraudulent activities and screw up more people.  We really don't know much about hacking or internet forensics/investigation procedures,  and we think this is a great place to start asking what could we do and the right tools to use in our in-deep investigation.

From our little basic research we got the following:
- The page is hosted at Yahoo
- Domain registered at Melbourneit.com
- Apparently they are sending mass emails from Panama (looking at the email's header)
- They have a Landline number (From Neutral Tandem) in Florida. USA.
- False address registered at their website.

We have much more information but we don't want to make the domain public yet in order to not alert them and let them go.

Please,  any information would be REALLY appreciated,  and we are willing to give a small reward of $100,  maybe not much, but that's what we can so far.
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Post Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:06 am

Re: Dismantling a Fraudulent Website - HELP Rewarded!

Senss,

if this is a criminal matter the best advice is to report it too the authorities. Even if your actions are 'justified' you may end up on the wrong side of the law. Hiring third party investigators probably isn't the way to go.

Failing this contact the providers of the domain to attempt to have the site taken down. Additionally you could try contacting the Internet Storm Centre (ISC)

RR
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Post Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:59 am

Re: Dismantling a Fraudulent Website - HELP Rewarded!

I agree with RR.  I don't know where you live, but in the United States, it would likely be possible to go after these guys in civil court after the feds get done with them. 

If you do go after them in civil court, I would speak with an attorney as soon as possible.  In United States, it is recommended to have a 3rd party forensics investigator perform the investigation.  When you are dealing with forensics, documentation, evidence preservation and chain, and repeatability are just as important as the investigation itself.    A forensic investigator with a good relationship with the feds may also be able to get a copy of their evidence.
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Post Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:36 am

Re: Dismantling a Fraudulent Website - HELP Rewarded!

That is unfortunate.  I know that Yahoo does have specific instructions for taking down a Rogue Website

Notice for Claims of Intellectual Property Violations and Agent for Notice
If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or that your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please provide Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent with the following information:
1. an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest;
2. a description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;
3. a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the Yahoo! site, with enough detail that we may find it on the web site;
4. your address, telephone number, and email address;
5. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright or intellectual property owner, its agent, or the law;
6. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner's behalf.
Yahoo!'s Agent for Notice of claims of copyright or other intellectual property infringement can be reached as follows:
By mail
Copyright Agent
c/o Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089

By phone
(408) 349-5080

By fax
(408) 349-7821

By email
copyright@yahoo-inc.com
Please note that, due to security concerns, attachments cannot be accepted. Accordingly, any notification of infringement submitted electronically with an attachment will not be received or processed.
Permissions
If you are seeking permission to use Yahoo! trademarks, logos, service marks, trade dress, slogans, screen shots, copyrighted designs, or other brand features, please contact the permission requests department, not the copyright agent.




I'm not sure if that helps or not. I hope it does.
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:00 am

Re: Dismantling a Fraudulent Website - HELP Rewarded!

there's a couple of problems you're opening yourself up for in this:

Depending on the state you're in, this is soliciting a private investigator and we may or may not be liscensed in that state.

The information you have so far is sketchy at best.  If all that information is so spread about the world, there's no reason to believe the information you have on the perpetrators is correct. 

Ketchup and MontyZ's advice is probably the best start for you.

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