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    • #7795
      S3curityM0nkey
      Participant

      We talk a lot about the technical books we read and recommend but not a lot about the down time books.

      I recently finished Zero Day by Mark Russinovich (http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Day-Novel-Mark-Russinovich/dp/1250007305/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1344922775&sr=8-2&keywords=zero+day) and it’s not a bad read. Has a great mix of the technical side of hunting down malware and a story line that keeps you involved. Mark has followed this up with another novel called Trojan Horse ( I plan to get round to that soon!!).

      I tried to read a novel called Divide by Zero but it was just too slow! Most of the story is about the main character and his love of motor bikes….

      So what is it that you read (other then tech books that is!)?

    • #48854
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      I am not a big fan of reading so the only books I read are security related books.

    • #48855
      S3curityM0nkey
      Participant

      Yeah I’m not a huge fan of reading but needed to find something to stimulate the imagination so found a few books that were a little bit like tech books with a touch of fiction….

    • #48856
      tturner
      Participant

      Currently reading Neal Stephenson’s Cryptonomicon and it is dated (released 1999) but it is really good! http://www.amazon.com/Cryptonomicon-Neal-Stephenson/dp/0380973464

      Next up is Railsea by China Mieville http://www.amazon.com/Railsea-China-Mieville/dp/0345524527

      Then I’ll probably re-read Shadow & Claw by Gene Wolfe http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Claw-First-Half-Book/dp/0312890176 Gene is probably the most underrated but amazing sci fi/fantasy author of our time. Seriously check out anything he has written.

    • #48857
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      A good book I read once for my uni course was about law and professional responsibiles and it gave you case studies It was pretty intresting.

    • #48858
      RoleReversal
      Participant

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      A good book I read once for my uni course was about law and professional responsibiles and it gave you case studies It was pretty intresting.

      link?

    • #48859
      Jamie.R
      Participant
    • #48860
      RoleReversal
      Participant

      Cheers, thought it might have been. I had the same reading list by the looks of it.

      A surprisingly interesting read given the subject matter.

    • #48861
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      Yes it was really good read and aruging the points was fun too.

    • #48862
      dynamik
      Participant

      @S3curityM0nkey wrote:

      Yeah I’m not a huge fan of reading but needed to find something to stimulate the imagination so found a few books that were a little bit like tech books with a touch of fiction….

      You’d probably like the Stealing the Network series: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=stealing+the+network

      The complete set on Kindle is a steal at $19.

      I’m currently going through Game of Thrones. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the TV show, but I want to go through the books first.

    • #48863
      S3curityM0nkey
      Participant

      @ajohnson wrote:

      You’d probably like the Stealing the Network series: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=stealing+the+network

      The complete set on Kindle is a steal at $19.

      I’m currently going through Game of Thrones. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the TV show, but I want to go through the books first.

      I keep seeing the Stealing the Network books… might have to give them a go next!

      Game of Thrones is a great TV show, but for someone who isn’t big on reading fiction those books are just waaaaaaay to thick!

    • #48864
      dynamik
      Participant

      @S3curityM0nkey wrote:

      Game of Thrones is a great TV show, but for someone who isn’t big on reading fiction those books are just waaaaaaay to thick!

      I picked up the Kindle edition, so I was completely unaware of what I was getting myself into. It is rather depressing to see that status bar update so rarely.

    • #48865
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      on that note how many people use kindle for technical books how do you find them ?

    • #48866
      dynamik
      Participant

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      on that note how many people use kindle for technical books how do you find them ?

      I’ll be honest, the Kindle format is pretty bad for most technical books. It’s fine for anything that’s pure text, but if you have a book with charts, tables, graphs, screenshots, etc., it really doesn’t look as good as the book or PDF.

      It seems that the publisher plays a pretty big role in how well the book transitions to the Kindle. There are some that are completely broken, like someone just copied-and-pasted from a PDF. There was one book where all the page footers were put into an appendix in the back of the book. Everytime the book referenced additional information in the footer, you had to dig through that appendix. I think I was going through The Shellcoders Handbook, and there was a page of shellcode where a few bytes were supposed to be in bold. Well, they weren’t.

      Others have clearly spent some time adjusting the book to work well in the Kindle format, and those are just fine. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to tell what you’re going to get before you actually look at it. The best-case is when a publisher (i.e. http://nostarch.com/malware) provides a package that contains a PDF along with the eBook formats. I’ll load that up on my iPad and never look back.

      However, the coolest thing is the syncing between devices. In addition to the Kindle itself, I have the Kindle app on my iPhone, iPad, multiple PCs, and the cloud reader for any PC that doesn’t have the app installed. I can read a few pages while waiting in line someone on my iphone, and the next time I go to read that book anywhere else, I’ll be prompted to skip ahead to my furthest location. Ironically, I rarely use my actual Kindle for Kindle books anyway.

      I also travel frequently, so I love not having to carry heavy books around. I have 92 Kindle books, and I’d guess about 70% of those are IT/security-related. It’s awesome to have your entire library in your pocket.

    • #48867
      RoleReversal
      Participant

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      on that note how many people use kindle for technical books how do you find them ?

      I love my Kindle, for all the reasons above; but I’d never use it for technical books, in my experience the smaller screen just doesn’t work regardless of how well publishers adapt the material for kindle format.

      For technical formats I’ll either stick with dead tree versions, or pdf version on tablet.

    • #48868
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      Yah that what I am thinking of doing getting tablet and pdf as carry books around a right pain in the behind.

    • #48869
      unicityd
      Participant

      I don’t mind squinting at the occasional image, but  I avoid using it for any technical book that has a lot of code or graphics.  A few charts here and there is fine, but an actual programming book?  No.

    • #48870
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      It looks great for reading book but was never sure about technical books on it I think I stick with tablet pdf as it might be the better for security.

    • #48871
      S3curityM0nkey
      Participant

      It’s true the kindle isn’t good for tech books… but if you have a tab that you want to use then just download the kindle app…. works great. I have it on my mobile, my galaxy…. all over the place… when I am at work if I need to look something up I user the cloud reader….

    • #48872
      Jamie.R
      Participant

      Cool not sure what tablet to get my GF gve me an archos 101  internet tablet but its bit big to carry on the train

    • #48873
      cyber.spirit
      Participant

      i think the art of exploition is greate too.
      http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1593271441/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

    • #48874
      Don Donzal
      Keymaster

      I think this topic got a little lost, so I’ll try to bring it back to its original intent. I was in a used book store with my son and found a great little book that while not a hacking book still touched the techie side of my brain while intertwining intrigue, history, fraud, patents, law… what else could you want!

      The Telephone Gambit: Chasing Alexander Graham Bell’s Secret by Seth Shulman
      http://www.amazon.com/The-Telephone-Gambit-Chasing-Alexander/dp/0393062066

      While researching Alexander Graham Bell at MIT’s Dibner Institute, Seth Shulman scrutinized Bell’s journals and within them he found the smoking gun, a hint of deeply buried historical intrigue. Delving further, Shulman unearthed the surprising story behind the invention of the telephone: a tale of romance, corruption, and unchecked ambition. Bell furtively—and illegally—copied part of Elisha Gray’s invention in the race to secure what would become the most valuable U.S. patent ever issued. And afterward, as Bell’s device led to the world’s largest monopoly, the American Telephone and Telegraph Company, he hid his invention’s illicit beginnings. In The Telephone Gambit, Shulman challenges the reputation of an icon of invention, rocks the foundation of a corporate behemoth, and offers a probing meditation on how little we know about our own history.

      Inside the book, the author also mentions “The Telephone Patent Conspiracy of 1876: The Elisha Gray-Alexander Bell Controversy and Its Many Players” by A. Edward Evenson which is an older book, looks to be more of a ‘just the facts” work but is also much more expensive.

      http://www.amazon.com/Telephone-Patent-Conspiracy-1876-Gray-Alexander/dp/0786408839/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1346161404&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=THE+TELPHONE+PATENT+CONSPIRACY+OF+1876

      Either book you choose, the story being presented is fascinating. Great read to keep your mind going even when not hacking!

      Don

    • #48875
      RoleReversal
      Participant

      I’ll add a few to the list, they’re all a bit dated as I read most before I started Uni, but if you want to keep your mind active on tech subjects or broaden your professional horizon they’re still good reads.

      Where Wizards Stay Up Late: Origins of the Internet
      Covers the development of the systems and protocols that would eventually become the Internet of today. If you don’t know your Licklider’s from your Postel’s it’s well worth adding to your library.

      The Hacker ethic
      Not necessarily the hackers of computer security, but covers those that think outside the box and work beyond the norm to do the unusual and ‘supposedly’ impossible.

      Hackers and Painters
      Covers the computerisation of everyday activities and the impact on our work an personal lives.

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