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February 4, 2011 at 6:39 pm #6067
Don Donzal
Keymaster[align=center:k9a1b0bn]RUaNinja?[/align:k9a1b0bn]
Hey all you eager EH-Netters,
Here’s another contest to test your skills. It’s pretty simple…
1. Visit the Amazon Page for the new pen testing book, “Ninja Hacking,” by Thomas Wilhelm and Jason Andress (Both EH-Netters 8) ). The link can be found in the book review by Ryan Linn.
2. There is a clue embedded somewhere on the Amazon page. That starts your ninja adventure.
3. The only hint we’ll offer is that powers of observation are sometimes more important than L337 5|<1LL5!!
That’s about it. The only other thing to mention is how we choose our winners. There are 3 signed copies of Ninja Hacking up for grabs. 3 names will be randomly chosen from the group of ninjas that finish the challenge by February 28, 2011.
[align=center:k9a1b0bn]3 get signed copies, but EVERYONE gets a discount on Syngress Books!![/align:k9a1b0bn]
[align=center:k9a1b0bn]20% Off Code: 50467
Good at http://www.syngress.com only.[/align:k9a1b0bn]Happy Hacking,
Don[hr:k9a1b0bn][/hr:k9a1b0bn]
[align=center:k9a1b0bn]Special thanks to Syngress Publishing for providing the prizes and the coupon code. They've always been supportive of EH-Net & the entire security community. Kudos to the entire crew.[/align:k9a1b0bn]
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February 4, 2011 at 8:42 pm #37840
alan
ParticipantInteresting… I almost did something without realizing there was a related competition!
Good luck everyone, I’ve got Thomas’ other book and can say it was a great read.
EDIT: Removed
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February 4, 2011 at 10:11 pm #37841
blackazarro
ParticipantHe he, nice… I thought I had it there for a while…
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February 4, 2011 at 10:59 pm #37842
Pookie
Participantlooks like fun
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February 6, 2011 at 5:48 pm #37843
MaXe
ParticipantNice, I thought I had it too but I hit a dead end ;D
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February 6, 2011 at 7:14 pm #37844
Grendel
ParticipantAh, come on!…. it’s easy!!
Ok, no it’s not. I got stuck, too. :-
Jason put a good challenge together, I must admit. Serious kudos.
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February 6, 2011 at 7:40 pm #37845
Don Donzal
KeymasterI did the same thing. That’s the reason for the hint in #3 above.
Don
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February 6, 2011 at 7:55 pm #37846
rattis
ParticipantI’ve been bashing my head against this since the post went up. But am having no luck on it.
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February 7, 2011 at 1:40 pm #37847
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February 7, 2011 at 10:50 pm #37848
AndyB67
Participant^ further than i’ve got 🙁 read it and re-read it.
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February 8, 2011 at 2:36 am #37849
rattis
ParticipantThere are 2 things I think could be the starting point. But I’m not really sure.
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February 8, 2011 at 2:49 am #37850
mohaab
Participanti think i found it
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February 8, 2011 at 2:11 pm #37851
Pookie
ParticipantI did one and got a good way with the other but am not sure what to do with it. I think I may have followed a red herring, but since I cannot do with one thing what I want to do and get anywhere, I will keep down the (herring) path.
very difficult challenge. either that or my 1337 observation kung foo is weak
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February 8, 2011 at 4:13 pm #37852
dyngnosis
ParticipantAnyone else freak out when they thought they were done and you were told to ‘try harder’?
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February 8, 2011 at 4:42 pm #37853
Don Donzal
KeymasterAt that point, I had some choice words for Jason that I’ll keep in my head. As his evil laughing faded away in my head, I could then hear him quoting Sun Tzu.
Don
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February 8, 2011 at 5:11 pm #37854
Pookie
Participant@dyngnosis wrote:
Anyone else freak out when they thought they were done and you were told to ‘try harder’?
but it was the way he did it. That had style
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February 8, 2011 at 8:00 pm #37855
mohaab
ParticipantI AM STUCK IN PDF PASSWORD WHO IS WITH ME ???????
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February 8, 2011 at 8:57 pm #37856
darkoperator
Participant@dyngnosis wrote:
Anyone else freak out when they thought they were done and you were told to ‘try harder’?
I got stuck here too “try harder” ???
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February 8, 2011 at 11:19 pm #37857
jasohansen
ParticipantSuper fun… and super frustrating… masochism at its finest.
EDIT: got the ‘try harder’…… Choice words were yelled….
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February 9, 2011 at 8:47 pm #37858
hayabusa
ParticipantWow… either I’m really close, or he threw a lot of EXTRA fun into this!
(Edit – but the extra fun is definitely a challenge, in and of itself, whether intentional or not…)
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February 9, 2011 at 9:13 pm #37859
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February 10, 2011 at 5:17 pm #37860
MaXe
Participant@dyngnosis wrote:
Anyone else freak out when they thought they were done and you were told to ‘try harder’?
Same, got stuck there after 30 minutes ;D I did check meta-data too but I didn’t check stenography, too lazy for that really 🙂
The Amazon page is filled with extreme amounts of information so it is quite a lot one can try to look for.
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February 14, 2011 at 7:23 pm #37861
hayabusa
ParticipantWell….. took me long enough, but I think I’ve gotten to the end. Awaiting confirmation.
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February 14, 2011 at 7:54 pm #37862
Don Donzal
KeymasterAnd we have our first Ninja!!
Let me have your thoughts without giving it away… did the hint in Step #3 help or did you just find it on your own?
We’ve also thought about giving away a little EH-Net love today by offering a hint, but we can’t figure out how to do it without spoonfeeding. Feel free to PM me if you feel you can’t discuss without revealing anything.
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February 14, 2011 at 8:24 pm #37863
hayabusa
ParticipantThanks, Don!
(and PM’d you on the hints, etc…) I know one that MAY come in handy, but not sure how you’d present it, without making things TOO obvious, either.
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February 14, 2011 at 9:10 pm #37864
tturner
ParticipantCan’t believe I missed the very obvious hint. Really. It took me this long to see it. I kept thinking I had the wrong page or my work proxy was obscuring something critical. I’m ashamed. I’m so NOT a ninja. Well, let’s see how far this notaninja can get. Grats Hayabusa!
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February 14, 2011 at 9:25 pm #37865
hayabusa
ParticipantBe ready to work a little. That first part was the easy part.
Thanks for the kudos.
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February 15, 2011 at 5:53 am #37866
Pookie
ParticipantCongrats! I am banging my head on it, but not making progress since the first bit
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February 16, 2011 at 10:42 pm #37867
Don Donzal
KeymasterWe’re up to 3 ninjas!!
Don
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February 17, 2011 at 9:53 am #37868
Anonymous
ParticipantVery interesting challenge……
– obtained the first step
– obtained the second step
– found the”try harder”
…….. cannot figure the passphrase out for the embedded fileLots of fun!
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February 17, 2011 at 6:37 pm #37869
mohaab
Participanti think i finish it wait the results
thx for this great game
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February 18, 2011 at 9:54 pm #37870
mallaigh
ParticipantThis an awesome challenge, and I appreciate the challenge. But, I’m stuck on the PDF (probably overlooked something).
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February 19, 2011 at 4:07 am #37871
Pookie
Participantok, try harder, been stuck 2 weeks, still am. argh!! ???
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February 20, 2011 at 3:08 am #37872
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February 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm #37873
MaXe
Participant@chrisj wrote:
@Pookie wrote:
ok, try harder, been stuck 2 weeks, still am. argh!! ???
I never even found the first clue. So you did way better than I did.
Hint: Where could they possibly insert embedded information when they can’t edit the Amazon page itself? (It’s very limited what is possible, and you might be surprised what starts this journey, also how you reach the dead end and then might realise that you forgot to look for something you didn’t anticipate 😉 Thanks Dxxxx
I think the winners has probably already been found by now though 🙂
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February 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm #37874
jason
ParticipantThere’s still time! Everyone that gets through gets a shot at the drawing, so for anyone that hasn’t solved it yet, you still have a chance. 8)
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February 21, 2011 at 9:35 am #37875
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February 21, 2011 at 1:32 pm #37876
hayabusa
ParticipantAs jason noted, the winners are drawn, after February ends, once all successful folks have submitted their answers. So they haven’t been ‘chosen,’ yet. So I wish everyone else luck, who’s trying.
That said, for those who put in the hours and have figured it out, thus far, congratulations for success.
For those who haven’t gotten it, yet, keep trying.
I won’t drop hints, as I don’t want to diminish the chances of others (who’ve worked hard and found the answers) to win the book. After I’d solved it, don and I had discussed on a PM, and decided that since folks WERE then managing to solve this, it was best to ‘keep the playing field level.’ If spoilers are to be handed out, I’m sure the authors will do so, for folks’ learning purposes, after the contest ends.
Suffice to say MaXe’s ‘hint’ is all the more someone should need, to at LEAST get started.
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February 21, 2011 at 2:51 pm #37877
Pookie
ParticipantWoot! found the PDF, finally feel like I have accomplished something…
Now opened the Password
how much further do I need to go? I think I am beginning to bug the guy and don’t wanna waste his time.
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February 21, 2011 at 10:38 pm #37878
hayabusa
ParticipantWhen you’ve reached the finish you’ll know. If you don’t know, yet, you’re likely not quite there…
😉
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February 22, 2011 at 5:18 am #37879
jason
ParticipantKeep going, you’re very close ;D
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February 23, 2011 at 3:25 am #37880
jsm725
ParticipantOk, so I have spent way too much time on this. Anyone else stuck on the password? Trying to use l337 5|<1LL5 (pdf crackers) but feel like I should be able to guess it. Posting to vent frustration…. ???
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February 24, 2011 at 6:37 pm #37881
yatz
ParticipantProps to Jason for putting this challenge together. More props to those who have already finished it!!
“Try Harder” indeed! Wow.
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February 24, 2011 at 7:27 pm #37882
Pookie
ParticipantFinished yesterday, just amazing challenge. Learned a lot from it. Thanks to the organizers.
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February 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm #37883
Don Donzal
KeymasterLast weekend to play!!
Don
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February 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm #37884
awhitehatter
ParticipantStumped at the try harder mark… I’ll keep digging.
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February 26, 2011 at 8:08 am #37885
awhitehatter
ParticipantGot a step further…stuck again…this is lots of fun. Thanks to all who put time into it.
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February 26, 2011 at 9:54 pm #37886
jason
ParticipantKeep after it, you’ll get there ;D
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February 26, 2011 at 10:00 pm #37887
mallaigh
ParticipantStuck on the PDF… still… trying to BF it, but can’t figure out what I’m missing.
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February 27, 2011 at 1:46 am #37888
awhitehatter
Participant@mallaigh wrote:
Stuck on the PDF… still… trying to BF it, but can’t figure out what I’m missing.
Me too!!!!! It’s 128 bit AES, it’ll be tough to BF won’t it?
Don, will we get any last minute hints?
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February 27, 2011 at 8:06 am #37889
Don Donzal
KeymasterShort answer… no.
Long answer… we have more than 3 ninjas, so there will be winners of the signed copies of the book without having to reward some who had hints and some who didn’t. So for fairness, there willbe no hints before the end of the month.
On March 1, we’ll start giving away little hints to see if some people want to try it without being given the entire thing.
Then we’ll do a write-up… maybe even with the help of the first ninja… so we’ll take you through the whole process.
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February 27, 2011 at 8:04 pm #37890
awhitehatter
ParticipantThat’s fair, and thanks for giving us a couple of extra days to still figure it out. It’s been really challenging and I’m enjoying learning along the way. There’s still time for me to figure it out tonight! 🙂
@don wrote:
Short answer… no.
Long answer… we have more than 3 ninjas, so there will be winners of the signed copies of the book without having to reward some who had hints and some who didn’t. So for fairness, there willbe no hints before the end of the month.
On March 1, we’ll start giving away little hints to see if some people want to try it without being given the entire thing.
Then we’ll do a write-up… maybe even with the help of the first ninja… so we’ll take you through the whole process.
Hope that helps,
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February 27, 2011 at 11:06 pm #37891
jsm725
ParticipantFinally got it…wow. It was a great challenge and a lot of fun. Thanks guys.
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February 28, 2011 at 1:52 pm #37892
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March 1, 2011 at 1:55 pm #37893
yatz
ParticipantSo how many finished this puzzle? I’m excited to find out.
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March 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm #37894
jwshaw
ParticipantLike many, I got stuck at the try harder part, but I made it past that part yesterday, though I’m still trying to figure out how to get the data out of the part that I discovered using my powers of observation.
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March 1, 2011 at 10:06 pm #37895
Pookie
Participant@jwshaw wrote:
Like many, I got stuck at the try harder part, but I made it past that part yesterday, though I’m still trying to figure out how to get the data out of the part that I discovered using my powers of observation.
That part was so cool and I didn’t know you could do what it takes to get that out of the part you discovered. (vague enough to not give spoilers)
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March 3, 2011 at 5:13 am #37896
awhitehatter
ParticipantAlright, I’m ready for hint…lol, sooo not a ninja..not yet.
Like many others, I got stuck on the .pdf.
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March 4, 2011 at 10:42 am #37897
Quicknesss
ParticipantWhere will be able to find out the solution and steps that were taken?
Loved this challenge….didn’t get far, but still loved it!
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March 4, 2011 at 10:16 pm #37898
Don Donzal
Keymaster[align=center:32gowjhe]Hint #1
A docx file is actually a compressed file.[/align:32gowjhe]
Stay tuned for 2 more hints then writeups from some (maybe all) of the 6 ninjas.
Don
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March 5, 2011 at 5:54 pm #37899
yatz
ParticipantWow only 6 made it? I’ll start working on my writeup.
I am also in an organization called Toastmaters, which is a public speaking group. I was considering doing this as a speech that involves visual aids, so doing a writeup would assist in that decision as well.
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March 6, 2011 at 12:00 am #37900
AndyB67
ParticipantI must have fallen out of the dense tree and hit several branches as i’m still getting nowhere with this one, even with the hint 🙁
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March 6, 2011 at 3:43 pm #37901
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March 6, 2011 at 8:47 pm #37902
awhitehatter
ParticipantCongrats to the six who made it! Job well done!
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March 6, 2011 at 11:54 pm #37903
Don Donzal
KeymasterAfter hearing from some out there, I guess we’ll have to do a prequel hint. So…
[align=center:wztvj813]Hint #.5
With all those newfangled smart phones out there, those dang QR Codes are showing up everywhere![/align:wztvj813]
Don
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March 7, 2011 at 7:03 am #37904
rattis
Participant@don wrote:
After hearing from some out there, I guess we’ll have to do a prequel hint. So…
[align=center:1eio8vu2]Hint #.5
With all those newfangled smart phones out there, those dang QR Codes are showing up everywhere![/align:1eio8vu2]
Don
GRRR… Really didn’t think that was part of the challenge. Which is probably why I was never able to start it.
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March 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm #37905
hayabusa
ParticipantFor those why don’t have smartphones, there are websites with online QR readers, too. If it makes you feel better, chrisj, I had fits trying to read the code, at first, and thought it might not be a clue, either. Remember to lower your camera resolution, or it might not be able to read properly.
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March 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm #37906
Data_Raid
ParticipantThe binary code on Jason’s face …. needs to be decoded …. by hand ;D
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March 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm #37907
WCNA
ParticipantI came way late to this party. I saw the QR code and figured it had something to do with the challenge but the only thing my phone got from it was an email address so I wasn’t sure whether this was part of the challenge or not.
…and then it was time to go back to work.
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March 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm #37908
hayabusa
Participant@WCNA – but isn’t the email address, in and of itself, kind of ‘thought provoking’? As it would certainly appear to be, maybe dropping an email to that address would be worth your time.
@Data_Raid – bwahahahahaha – yeah, I spent plenty of time exploring that, too. (you’re too funny)
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March 7, 2011 at 3:47 pm #37909
lorddicranius
Participant@hayabusa wrote:
For those why don’t have smartphones, there are websites with online QR readers, too…
Learned something new! I had worked a little with those 2D barcodes before, but only using handheld scanners in a warehouse. I didn’t know that there were smartphone apps and websites that decoded those for you too.
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March 7, 2011 at 3:53 pm #37910
rattis
Participant@hayabusa wrote:
but isn’t the email address, in and of itself, kind of ‘thought provoking’? As it would certainly appear to be, maybe dropping an email to that address would be worth your time.
It was. But I’ve seen some pretty good email addresses over the last couple of years. The guys at Sun Microsystems (Before Oracle bought them) had some great ones.
So while my phone scanned and I saw the address. And I thought, yeah maybe… I ended up not doing it because I figured he got a really cool email address.
I observed it, but figured there was NO way it was that easy to start.
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March 7, 2011 at 7:24 pm #37911
hayabusa
ParticipantUnderstood. I know how it goes.
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March 7, 2011 at 9:41 pm #37912
AndyB67
Participant@chrisj wrote:
I observed it, but figured there was NO way it was that easy to start.
Easy he says… So much for my powers of obvservation!!
I was looking in the right area as it happens but completely missed that damn code ::)
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March 8, 2011 at 6:21 am #37913
rattis
Participant@AndyB wrote:
@chrisj wrote:
I observed it, but figured there was NO way it was that easy to start.
Easy he says… So much for my powers of obvservation!!
I was looking in the right area as it happens but completely missed that damn code ::)
ok, maybe I should have said, the first answer couldn’t be that simple… That was what I thought anyway. kicking myself hard
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March 8, 2011 at 6:32 am #37914
Don Donzal
KeymasterThe point of the hints is not to kick yourselves, but to try and complete the challenge before all hints are revealed. So give it a shot now! You can still say you did it without being (entirely) spoonfed. 😉
Don
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March 9, 2011 at 2:10 pm #37915
R3B005t
ParticipantI’ve been following this site for awhile now, finally had to register to say I love this challenge, excellent job especially the starting point…. Like several others I’ve been stuck on the PDF but regardless very cool promotional idea!
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March 9, 2011 at 3:12 pm #37916
Don Donzal
Keymaster[align=center:3w444dib]Hint #2[/align:3w444dib]
File: Try Harder
User: Easy for you to say.
File: No need to get snippy. I’m just data.
User: Sorry. Maybe I should get to know you better.Don
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March 15, 2011 at 1:38 am #37917
awhitehatter
Participant@don wrote:
[align=center:2ykdnao9]Hint #2[/align:2ykdnao9]
File: Try Harder
User: Easy for you to say.
File: No need to get snippy. I’m just data.
User: Sorry. Maybe I should get to know you better.Don
This was a frustrating point in the race 🙂
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March 15, 2011 at 2:06 am #37918
Don Donzal
KeymasterDid the hint help you get past it?
Don
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March 15, 2011 at 4:39 am #37919
lorddicranius
ParticipantIt didn’t help me, but I’m sure I’m making it out to be harder than it actually is lol
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March 15, 2011 at 11:16 am #37920
ziggy_567
ParticipantI’m pretty sure I’ve found what I need to move on….but the problem is I don’t know what to do with it…..
Unfortunately, I’ve had the puzzle piece since before the contest ended…I just can’t figure out what it is used for…
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March 15, 2011 at 11:54 am #37921
R3B005t
Participant@lorddicranius wrote:
It didn’t help me, but I’m sure I’m making it out to be harder than it actually is lol
I’m in the same boat tried cracking the PDF analyzed the structure looking for clues and tried manipulating the qscan codes with no success I’m sure its something Ive overlooked but I’m at a loss but I refuse to give up!
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March 15, 2011 at 2:50 pm #37922
Don Donzal
KeymasterWhat is defined as data about data? How do you find it?
Don
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March 15, 2011 at 5:09 pm #37923
hayabusa
ParticipantWhen it comes to data analysis, there are no strings attached… 😉
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March 15, 2011 at 10:48 pm #37924
ziggy_567
ParticipantWhen it comes to data analysis, there are no strings attached…
That’s a good one….anyway….the outcome of your hint is exactly what I’ve had for roughly 2 weeks trying to figure out what to do with…. ;D ;D ;D
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March 15, 2011 at 10:50 pm #37925
ziggy_567
ParticipantBy the way, there’s a more precise way to get the clue, hayabusa. I’m assuming Jason chose a JPEG for this precision…
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March 16, 2011 at 12:19 am #37926
hayabusa
ParticipantIt’s no more precise, actually. And if you think about my hint, it’d have helped on more than just this clue. Works wonders for multiple pieces…
Edit- if you ever do a lot of forensics, you’ll understand the method to my madness, and the reason you might consider going to it more quickly, down the road, especially when analyzing multiple files. 😉
Further… Sorry to ramble. Some of the data we’re referring to was NOT as obvious, using methods which I’m pretty sure you refer to, as it depends on the basics of your OS and default tools. To be frank, I did try the ‘other’ methods, as well, in the event I missed something, but mine was faster, and I could automate multiple task quickly with it. While it meant ‘glancing over’ the output, it was worth it to find multiple pieces of info for verification…
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March 16, 2011 at 12:42 am #37927
hayabusa
Participant@ziggy_567 wrote:
When it comes to data analysis, there are no strings attached…
That’s a good one….anyway….the outcome of your hint is exactly what I’ve had for roughly 2 weeks trying to figure out what to do with…. ;D ;D ;D
PM me, off thread, ziggy, if you want someone to sound your thoughts to. Sometimes, I find things come to me as I just tell someone what I’m thinking about. I’m happy to be a sounding board, if it helps you move forward in it. 😉
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March 16, 2011 at 1:30 am #37928
Don Donzal
Keymaster[align=center:klyt8veo]
Hint #3This challenge takes a lot of effort. You can't just phone it in. Then again, why not?!?![/align:klyt8veo]
Don
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March 16, 2011 at 6:08 am #37929
mohaab
Participant!?!?ton yhw ,niaga nehT .ni ti enohp tsuj t’nac uoY .troffe fo tol a sekat egnellahc sihT
3# tniH
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March 16, 2011 at 2:02 pm #37930
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March 17, 2011 at 3:10 am #37931
Pookie
ParticipantI didn’t phone it in, I did it differently…
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March 23, 2011 at 4:25 pm #37932
yatz
ParticipantWas anyone else able to solve this with the hints?
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March 23, 2011 at 5:47 pm #37933
Don Donzal
KeymasterYes. A few more made it through. We’ll be posting the write-ups in April after I get them all, edit, format blah blah blah. ::)
Don
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March 24, 2011 at 4:22 am #37934
Pookie
Participantand when do we find out who won?
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June 7, 2011 at 2:10 pm #37935
mohaab
Participantwho won this contest ??
thanks
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June 8, 2011 at 4:20 pm #37936
MaXe
Participant@mohaab wrote:
who won this contest ??
thanks
I think they’re still drawing randomly, but keep ending up with one or several winners that shouldn’t win ;D If not, no idea. I gave up on following this contest a long time ago to be honest, and I don’t really care any more ;D But congratulations to the winners! 🙂 Whenever they’re announced ;D
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June 10, 2011 at 8:31 pm #37937
blackazarro
ParticipantI’m still waiting for the results. When are we going to found out? I can’t wait to see the answers.
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June 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm #37938
jason
ParticipantI’ll ping Don about it…
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June 11, 2011 at 9:44 pm #37939
Don Donzal
KeymasterTotally my bad. Here’s another hint to get most of you through until I get the winning answers posted.
Look at the metadata. When you find a code, try typing it out using the numbers on your phone. See what the message reads and act accordingly.
BTW – The 3 winners have been contacted. 2 of 3 have received their books. I’m still waiting to get a secondary address from the 3rd.
No excuses, just having a lame moment on this one,
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June 12, 2011 at 10:36 am #37940
mohaab
Participant@don wrote:
Totally my bad. Here’s another hint to get most of you through until I get the winning answers posted.
Look at the metadata. When you find a code, try typing it out using the numbers on your phone. See what the message reads and act accordingly.
BTW – The 3 winners have been contacted. 2 of 3 have received their books. I’m still waiting to get a secondary address from the 3rd.
No excuses, just having a lame moment on this one,
Doni know the 3rd winner
he lives in far place in egypt 🙂
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October 20, 2011 at 9:56 pm #37941
blackazarro
ParticipantI’m still waiting for the answers. Don, what happen here?
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