Passed the ECSA

This topic contains 28 replies, has 11 voices, and was last updated by  furytech 8 years, 2 months ago.

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  • #5981
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    Welp, I know this board is a little slow, but thought I would post in here that I passed the ECSA today. For some reason I had in my mind the test was 75-100 questions, was only 50.  Wished i would have done a bit better, but got a 86%, and all I did was self study.  This test is pretty decent, mostly a side step from the CEH, such as reading what the tools spit out.  Now I am planning on applying for the LPT/Red team as soon as I get my background check back. 

    Anyone else here applied to the EC-C LPT?

  • #37404
     rattis 
    Participant

    don’t think of it not doing as good as you wanted too, think of it as an area where you need a little more study. Hopefully the test gave you feed back on where you got things wrong.

    Congrats.

  • #37405
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    Thanks man.  Sadly this test gives you no feedback besides the score. I pretty much know what I missed, was some older scan techniques not used, and one or two that I am sure that I just read wrong. The EC-C tests are always a little bit different than i expect but overall are pretty good tests.

  • #37406
     SephStorm 
    Participant

    You should do a review of both tests, the CEH and the ECSA. It sounds like a step backwards, but will you be doing the ENSA?

  • #37407
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    As far as next certs will be the CISSP and the CCNA Security.  I have wanted to take the CISSP for several months, but I am always out of town or have some other plans on the day it is offered.  I REALLY wish they would go to computer based testing for it.  I know they have talked about it for awhile, just wish it would happen.  The CCNA Security just also seems like a good logical step, i know Cisco is losing some market share, but i have a full CCIE lab here at the house, and was planning on doing that. I like working with Cisco gear so wanted to get a few of there certs too.

  • #37408
     UNIX 
    Participant

    Congrats, DrivinTin. What materials did you study for preparation?

  • #37409
     Xen 
    Participant

    Congrats!

  • #37410
     hayabusa 
    Participant

    Congrats!

  • #37411
     mallaigh 
    Participant

    Congrats!

    @awesec wrote:

    Congrats, DrivinTin. What materials did you study for preparation?

    Yes, please share.  It is always nice to hear what worked for other people.

  • #37412
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    Well the problem with this one is I did not have the course material like i did for the CEH.  But somewhere i read someone had a forum post pretty much saying if you know the output and switches for the tools in the CEH then you have half of this test covered. So I started there, then went through the ECSA pages on the ECC site and took notes and made sure I had generally that area covered.  Then I found an old practice test that EC-C made and looked over that.  Really that was about it, I honestly try to read and study as much as i can about pen testing, and working on my CISSP as a self study.  So between the CEH and Sec+ you should be able to review notes and take this test without too many problems.

  • #37413
     knwminus 
    Participant

    Congrats!

    CCNA:Security wasn’t that bad. You do need to pass the CCNA to obtain it however (and the CCNA is much, much harder than the CCNA:Security).

  • #37414
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    Ha, knwminus: I was just about to reply to your other thread asking about the CCNA Security. The CCNA really doesn’t scare me at all, I have all the networking basics down, and torn apart and rebuilt my Cisco lab enough times to feel pretty good about working with the routers and configuring ACLs, but good to know that the CCNA Security doesn’t seem to be too daunting. I am thinking that needs to be one of my next goals as soon as i knock out the CISSP.

  • #37415
     knwminus 
    Participant

    With your experience you should be ok. Just study up a bit as I have known some senior network engineers who have failed the CCNA (more than once). If you study well for the CCNA, most of the topics for the CCNA:S will be covered.

  • #37416
     BillV 
    Participant

    Congrats 🙂

    I have a post somewhere here that mentions the ECSA is more of an extension to the CEH than its own certification. I have asked EC-Council to remove this certification but they said the popularity is growing.

    @drivintin wrote:

    Anyone else here applied to the EC-C LPT?

    Yes.

  • #37417
     j0rDy 
    Participant

    Congrats!

    So the exam is only 50 questions? How long did it take you to finish the exam? And at what time are you kicked out by the instructor? I assume the questions are multiple choice as with CEH? This one is 2nd on my list but i am still arguing with myself if i should take the course or go for it by self study…

  • #37418
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    BillV: Thanks, yeah i think it might have been one of your original posts that referenced the extension of CEH that made me decide to just self study. I would honestly like to see them revamp this test a lot if they are going to keep it.  I can understand why it could be useful, it just needs to be tuned.

    j0rDy: Yeah 50 questions, I think they give you two hours to take it, more than you would ever need. If you have the CEH you know how the wording is on the test questions, it follows the same format.  Which honestly probably is why I missed a couple, i have a tendency to skip the paragraph and jump straight down to the question.  So if you do that you can finish the test pretty quickly, hah, you might just miss a few if you are not careful though.

  • #37419
     BillV 
    Participant

    The ECSA is being worked on currently. The CEH v7 will be released soon and is a major overhaul. I’m not sure whether I can release details or not but once I can EH-Net will be the first to know. I am pretty excited about it.

    If you don’t mind, let me know once you receive your ECSA certificate in the mail (what country are you in?) and also how long it takes to process your LPT application. Being an EC-Council committee member I like to see whether these things are getting taken care of in decent amount of time. The process to receive a certificate was supposed to be streamlined from 6-8 weeks down to 4 weeks a while back.

  • #37420
     SephStorm 
    Participant

    Crap. When will this overhaul of the CEH be released? I’m studying for it now, but i’m getting delayed because of work.

    Also, do you know if they ever decided to seriously look into issuing ID cards for the non LPT certs?

  • #37421
     knwminus 
    Participant

    Well that isn’t good. I wonder how quicly they are trying to redo the CEH. I might have to shuffle it around in my priorities list.

  • #37422
     BillV 
    Participant

    It will be released mid-March. The courseware, as far as I know, is ready. I have to assume they are waiting on new exam questions. That being said, I believe the objectives will be updated so any current study guides will not be aligned properly with v7 (but may still help prepare on some of the topics).

    I know the ID card suggestion has come up in the past but I don’t know how in-depth they looked at it.

  • #37423
     SephStorm 
    Participant

    Crap. I’m swamped at work until at least April. And I just ordered the CEH Study guide….

  • #37424
     knwminus 
    Participant

    Do you know when a new book is going to be out? I mean it seems like the last version of the CEH just came out. I don’t think I am going to be able to squeeze this in by March. Oh well.

  • #37425
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    Please correct me if I am wrong here BillV, but when the new test (CEH at least) comes out it will have some overlap?  So say you studied or took the course for v6 you could still take the v6 test through the rest of the year or for 6months, something like that.

    I well let you know as soon as I apply to the LPT program, I am basically waiting for the FBI check to come back, and the ECSA cert to come in the mail.  I do have a question on the LPT application though.  The reference letter part is kind of confusing.  Am I supposed to fill that out and send it in so they can send it to the reference, or have the refer send it to EC-C, or actually take it to the refer and get the response and send it all in together?  It seems like the last option, but you would get manipulated answers I would think if you were getting the letter and form from the person yourself.  I figured I would just call and ask when it came closer to time.

  • #37426
     SephStorm 
    Participant

    Are you serious? They do a background check?!

  • #37427
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    SephStorm: yep, in the states it has to come from the FBI and that requires a full fingerprint card to be sent in. 

    Here is the actual application (7.4m PDF)
    http://www.eccouncil.org/Portals/0/Documents/LPT-Application.pdf

  • #37428
     BillV 
    Participant

    Regarding when a book will be out, I’m assuming you mean a study guide? Hard to say as those are done by third-parties. I’m not aware of anyone working on a book currently but I’d imagine the writers of the current versions will probably just update those books.

    Yes, the test will certainly have some overlap. While the objectives may change, they aren’t going to be completely different. So if you’ve studied for v6 you may very well be prepared for v7. We won’t know until they release the objectives. And yes, the v6 exam will be retired 6 months after the release of v7 (September).

    As for the LPT application, I used that last option. Assuming the application is still the same, I filled out the top portion and gave that to each of my references. They filled out the bottom portion and provided a signed letter of recommendation as well. You also don’t have to wait for your ECSA certificate. You can provide the testing results with the application and forward your certificate once you receive it.

  • #37429
     DrivinTin 
    Participant

    BillV:  Thanks for all the info you share here on the board.  At this point we are playing the game of will the background check beat the ECSA certificate in the mail.  I am currently placing the spread on EC-C, but we shall see who wins sooner hopefully than later.  🙂

  • #37430
     j0rDy 
    Participant

    @BillV wrote:

    It will be released mid-March. The courseware, as far as I know, is ready. I have to assume they are waiting on new exam questions. That being said, I believe the objectives will be updated so any current study guides will not be aligned properly with v7 (but may still help prepare on some of the topics).

    I know the ID card suggestion has come up in the past but I don’t know how in-depth they looked at it.

    This is great news Bill, there is a lot of competition at the moment for CEH and i am sure the new version will put it ahead in the competition again.

  • #37431
     furytech 
    Participant

    Does anyone know how much assembly language is required for the ECSA/LPT? I am taking the bootcamp at the end of September and the pre-course study material is the Shellcoder’s Handbook which is all assembly. I have watched Vivek’s videos on securitytube.net but I was just wondering how well I need to know it to pass the exam.

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