Good books on learning Linux?

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    • #7535
      Flash13
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      Been wanting to mess around with pen testing sort of stuff for a while now with a possible look to trying to make a career from it in the future. So far I have got two books Grey Hat Hacking and Professional Penetration Testing.. one more to get a basic intro to the theory and one hopefully for more practical stuff. However though, there is one big gap in my knowledge which needs sorting.. LINUX!

      All my life I’ve unfortunately been confined to Windows for convenience as I’m completely new to anything other than Windows. My friend lent me a book on Ubuntu but tbh it’s aimed at complete computer novices so isn’t of much use.

      What books would people recommend to give me a solid foundation in Linux while at the same time allowing me to expand further on various areas if I so choose?  I guess I’ll be getting Backtrack for pentesting and so far have a copy of Ubuntu I’m messing around with on my older computer so don’t know how much those will effect book choices.

      So far the two books I’m looking at are Linux command line and shell scriptiong bible and Backtrack 4 assuring security through penetration testing. Are both good choices? Is it even worth getting the Backtrack 4 book when Backtrack 5 is out? 

    • #47063
      ziggy_567
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      If you’re completely new to Linux, I wouldn’t worry too much with shell scripting just yet. I’d spend some time with your Ubuntu distro and on the support forums over there. What I love about Ubuntu is that there is SOOOOO much support right out of the box.

      When you run into problems with a piece of software, try to fix it from the command line rather than through the GUI. Also, for everyday tasks such as moving files around, blahblah…use the command line. Just like anything new, it will just take time to get used to using a brand new OS.

      Once you master the basics of Linux and want to move on to more advanced uses, I’d recommend picking up either the RedHat book meant for self-study for the RHCE or a self-study book for the LPI certifications. These will give you a little more in depth information about CLI use, and you’ll start to learn how to configure and use services. At this point, you’ll also want to start learning about shell scripting. There are a ton of books out there, but there are also a ton of free resources online. I’d say pick a shell (bash, ksh, csh, etc) and learn it first. Usually bash is the first shell. After that, you can branch out into other shells.

    • #47064
      rattis
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      The books I like for learning are:
      Running Linux
      Linux System Administration
      Linux in a Nutshell
      and
      Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook

      really learn the CLI, build a vm without a gui attached. Ubuntu Server LTS, Debian, CentOS (you’ll have to set it up that way).

    • #47065
      Anonymous
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      google linux from scratch

    • #47066
      sil
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      @ziggy_567 wrote:

      What I love about Ubuntu is that there is SOOOOO much support right out of the box.

      And this happens to be one of my biggest pet peeves for someone looking to learn especially in this arena (security). The issue with “support” when learning in this environment is that the learner will learn to skip truly learning as support is readily available. That type of reliance is a moot point when faced with making mission critical and time sensitive decisions in the real world.

      I think someone learning Linux should learn as much as they can by trial and error. You WILL NOT HAVE books in the field when performing penetration testing in say a client’s environment. So the best bet is to aim to learn it as best as one can understand it on their own accord. Avoid using package managers (yum, YaST, apt-get, pkg_add) and configure things from scratch. Get used to the commands, get used to trouble shooting based on what you see. Imagine NOT being able to connect to a support forum. What then?

      Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc., are not difficult at all and too many people have used forums as a form of crutch. We all use forums but its better to learn it from the ground up. Make scenarios for yourself and understand what you are doing. E.g. week one create your own webserver. Do this without package managers. Week 2, make it a virtual hosting server (multiple domains), following week, add email, next add say monitoring. And so on and so on.

      Get used to doing things on your own by setting up tasks. you end up familiarizing yourself with tips and tricks not often found in books and your reliance on forums and or books will diminish as experience grows

    • #47067
      eth3real
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      @chrisj wrote:

      Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook

      This is a REALLY good book.

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      google linux from scratch

      This is probably the best way to get a really thorough understanding of Linux. I absolutely recommend this, there is a step by step guide to help you through it.

    • #47068
      rattis
      Participant

      @sil
      For the most part I agree, but with ebook readers / tablets / laptops, and ebook versions, you may have the book with you.

      However the books I recommended, if you read through them, you’ll get an understanding not a cookie cutter approach (at east that was true with the last versions I read).

      I could have recommend the Hacks series, but those are more reference on a regular basis book.

      I agree though, people who want to learn linux need to get their hands dirty.

    • #47069
      dynamik
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    • #47070
      RichFalcon
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      Wanted to throw this one out there (Linux Administration: A Beginner’s Guide).
      You can read about it here –>> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/74933.html
      The writer assumes that the reader have a familiarity with Windows Servers.
      I’ve added this one to my Amazon wish list.
      Happy reading.

    • #47071
      r2s
      Participant

      @ajohnson wrote:

      http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Commands-Editors-Programming-Edition/dp/0131367366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335201452&sr=8-1

      +1 on this book. Dynamik/AJ turned me onto this book when I was first starting out and it has literally changed my life. It has set a great foundation for me and I constantly use this as a go to reference for command switches and basic programming (man pages are only so exciting for so long  ;D)

    • #47072
      montibasu
      Participant

      If you are complete beginner then “Linux by in easy step” would be really fit for you and for advance users “Linux kernel development” would be excellent.

    • #47073
      Securex
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    • #174624
      matthiew
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      What I love about Ubuntu is that there is SOOOOO much support right out of the box.

      And this happens to be one of my biggest pet peeves for someone looking to learn especially in this arena (security). The issue with “support” when learning in this environment is that the learner will learn to skip truly learning as support is readily available. That type of reliance is a moot point when faced with making mission critical and time sensitive decisions in the real world.

      I think someone learning Linux should learn as much as they can by trial and error. You WILL NOT HAVE books in the field when performing penetration testing in say a client’s environment. So the best bet is to aim to learn it as best as one can understand it Rachat de crédit plus trésorerie on their own accord. Avoid using package managers (yum, YaST, apt-get, pkg_add) and configure things from scratch. Get used to the commands, get used to trouble shooting based on what you see. Imagine NOT being able to connect to a support forum. What then?

      Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc., are not difficult at all and too many people have used forums as a form of crutch. We all use forums but its better to learn it from the ground up. Make scenarios for yourself and understand what you are doing. E.g. week one create your own webserver. Do this without package managers. Week 2, make it a virtual hosting server (multiple domains), following week, add email, next add say monitoring. And so on and so on.

      Get used to doing things on your own by setting up tasks. you end up familiarizing yourself with tips and tricks not often found in books and your reliance on forums and or books will diminish as experience grows

      Hi, yes you are right about saying that you have to get used to doing things by ourselves by setting up tasks.

    • #176515
      jamessssssmith
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      +1

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