"Breaking In" Pentest Sitcom

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    • #6209
      tturner
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      http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/3/18/fox-air-penetration-testing-sitcom-show/

      I’m just curious to see how badly the technology gets represented. If they do it Burn Notice style with real techniques and tools it could be very interesting. Lots of potential here but I’m predicting lots of #Fail.

    • #38747
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      @tturner wrote:

      Lots of potential here but I’m predicting lots of #Fail.

      +1

    • #38748
      Pookie
      Participant

      Like watching Charlie Sheen, you know it will end badly but can’t stop looking

    • #38749
      maxpeck
      Participant

      A show like this with a CSI type drama style is one thing – but a goofy comedy?

      Did Slater lose a bet or just his mind? OUCH!

    • #38750
      WCNA
      Participant

      A comedy about hacking? I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

    • #38751
      BillV
      Participant

      Wow, I didn’t realize this was going to be a comedy…

      Here’s the link from Fox, there’s a video but I can’t see it from here:

      Fox – Breaking In

    • #38752
      tturner
      Participant

      Probably the worst part will be the characters in the show that are supposedly “hackers”. I suspect that something like this could help to shape the publics perception of what a hacker or pentester is so has the potential to do a great deal of damage (or good – but that I doubt) to what they perceive us to be. When I hear snippets like

      BREAKING IN is an offbeat half-hour workplace comedy about a high-tech security firm that takes extreme – and often questionable – measures to sell their protection services.

      it leads me to believe they engage in unethical practices to generate business. If people believe that’s standard practices for pentest firms (and sadly for some it is) that could be very detrimental to our field. I just hope since it’s a comedy people don’t take it too seriously.

    • #38753
      j0rDy
      Participant

      so, what did you guys think? i think i need another episode before i can give my judgement, but if they keep doing the 1 ep 1 breakin it will be too shallow and i will probably not finish the first season…

    • #38754
      hayabusa
      Participant

      Was told it was semi- (if not really) bad / lame / unrealistic (didn’t necessarily expect more, honestly,) but I missed it.  I might just watch it, solely on the basis that there’s not usually much ELSE on, that catches my eye, anyway.

    • #38755
      SephStorm
      Participant

      here here. I would rather watch RED TEAM. It was too bad they canceled that show, it was pretty enlightening.

    • #38756
      rattis
      Participant

      I haven’t seen it yet. I was out when it was on, and my tv doesn’t get that channel for some strange reason (over the air with digital converter).

    • #38757
      hayabusa
      Participant

      @SephStorm wrote:

      here here. I would rather watch RED TEAM. It was too bad they canceled that show, it was pretty enlightening.

      Yeah, I only caught one episode of Red Team, bit it seemed pretty interesting.  Was only a couple of episodes from what I’d heard, wasn’t it?

    • #38758
      BillV
      Participant

      Yeah, Tiger Team only had 2 episodes but both are available online.

      Breaking In was fairly stupid – I don’t think it will last more than a single season.

    • #38759
      Triban
      Participant

      If you took the show for what it is, it was not horrible.  I need at least another episode to decide.  Though, I agree that it could certainly give a negative view on REAL sec firms.  Then again, LIGATT seems to do that just as well… hmm wonder if they are backing the producers :-p

      Also would you really be as whiny as the main character??  A supposed top notch security firm just offered you a job before you even left college?

      Also if that prankster says “And boom goes the dynamite” one more time, I will just turn off the TV and burn it since now I will know that real writing has died and there isn’t an original thought left in Hollywood.

    • #38760
      jason
      Participant

      I thought it was pretty funny. Definitely not something to be taken as making any sort of serious statement or any sort of a commentary on the profession. I imagine, due to it being a 30 min comedy and due to Christian Slater being involved (considering his recent track record) it will flop after a few episodes though.

    • #38761
      yatz
      Participant

      They have the pilot episode available for streaming one-day after it airs.  I started watching it but the language/innuendo turned me off pretty quickly.  I would probably watch it otherwise for brainless entertainment.  It would be nice to see clean television again… *sigh*.  Not sure if anyone else feels the same way.

    • #38762
      BillV
      Participant

      There were a couple of funny lines here and there but that was really about it. From a true/technical perspective it was pretty lacking – but that’s really not the way they are going. And I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the tv show ligatt was talking about.. they probably explain their security assessments the same as in the show “…and then we’ll drop in from your ceiling all mission impossible style, use a remote control helicopter to disable your alarm system, and then take off with your stuff! Cuz that’s how we roll!” I’ll give it one more episode to determine if it’s worth following but I still don’t see it making it beyond a single season at this point unless they make it more entertaining/true (people love reality) or a lot funnier as a comedy.

    • #38763
      ziggy_567
      Participant

      I just caught it on hulu.com earlier today….it was a crappy, Hollywood version of the mildly entertaining first episode of Tiger Team from TruTV.

      Needless to say….I won’t be following it…

    • #38764
      rattis
      Participant

      Finally got to see it. Looking forward to next week’s episode.

    • #38765
      hayabusa
      Participant

      I did too, but in my case, hope it gets better, because I wasn’t nearly as impressed as I’d hoped.  Figured if Slater was in it, it’d be more than it was.  Guess we’ll see and time / more episodes will tell…

    • #38766
      rattis
      Participant

      Considering the station, and some of the other things they show, and how they jack their real shows for those other things, I had very very low expectations. Some of the stuff got old and was over played. I liked how the one guy got into the main character’s head and had him screw up the job. I didn’t catch it either, and was like what when Slater put his fist through the wall.

      It however made me laugh, and I wondered if they’d have more than enough material for 2 shows (all Tiger Team lasted and they modified Tiger Team’s thing for this episode, even stole the bit with the thumb drive from the second episode).

    • #38767
      tturner
      Participant

      I’ve relaxed my fears a bit on this since it’s a sitcom. I was entertained. That’s all I ask for. I don’t look for realism in sitcoms. Now put that on Discovery, and then we will have problems.

    • #38768
      hayabusa
      Participant

      Yeah.  Solely as a non-EH, I probably would’ve laughed harder at some of the gags.  So guess it wasn’t ‘horrible,’ by that measure…

    • #38769
      Pookie
      Participant

      I thought it was ok, got some laughs.  Was not expecting award winning stuff, so I wasn’t disappointed.  Not everything has to be Citizen Kane.

    • #38770
      j0rDy
      Participant

      exactly, it was entertaining and not informative so it did a good job as a sitcom. next episode is tomorrow. i am watching it for sure…

    • #38771
      ShadowReaper
      Participant

      @SephStorm wrote:

      here here. I would rather watch RED TEAM. It was too bad they canceled that show, it was pretty enlightening.

      where can i find the episodes of RED TEAM? I googled it but i didn’t find anything. which channel broadcasted them?

    • #38772
      hayabusa
      Participant

      TruTV – Episode 1 is streamed there, I think.  You’ll have to dig a bit for Episode 2.

    • #38773
      ShadowReaper
      Participant

      Then it’s called Tiger team not Red team

    • #38774
      BillV
      Participant

      Both episodes are linked to from Chris’ website:

      Lares Consulting

    • #38775
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      Just watched ep1 of “Tiger Team” (full ep via TruTV – thanks hayabusa) and the clip of ep2 (thanks for the link BillV) – good stuff!  I wasn’t able to find a full ep2, but I’m going to search a few other sites after I get off work.  Watching the recon, planning, and educating the client is just as good as the attack IMO 🙂

      As for “Breaking In,” I have yet to watch that yet, but I’ll be watching it for the comedic value rather than accuracy/factuality.  It seems its more pleasurable that way 😛

    • #38776
      ziggy_567
      Participant

      They’re both on youtube.com.

      I just watched them last weekend. They’re split into part 1 through 4, but the whole episode is there for both of them.

    • #38777
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      Thanks ziggy.

      Tip for others searching for ep2 on youtube, append the ep name to your search: karat caper.  The first ep should come up if you just search for the show name.

    • #38778
      jsm725
      Participant

      Saw the episode last night. I forced myself to watch the whole thing. I would be surprised if it made it past one more episode. The acting is poor, the dialogue is lame and pretty dirty at some points, and the tech talk is mind numbingly inaccurate. So sad… :'(

    • #38779
      rattis
      Participant

      @jsm725 wrote:

      Saw the episode last night. I forced myself to watch the whole thing. I would be surprised if it made it past one more episode. The acting is poor, the dialogue is lame and pretty dirty at some points, and the tech talk is mind numbingly inaccurate. So sad… :'(

      I have to watch it later. But from the sound of it, it sounds like the few episodes of every other sitcom currently on tv.

    • #38780
      lorddicranius
      Participant
    • #38781
      j0rDy
      Participant

      too bad, i find it quite amusing and a nice add-on to my weekly big bang theory half hour.

    • #38782
      oleDB
      Participant

      I think the cancellation was a given, it was marginally funny with a heavy dose of geek humor and weak tech sauce. Whats more shocking to me is the cancellation of HT and Chicago Code. I thought they were good shows.

    • #38783
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      I never watched Chicago Code, but my wife liked it.  I’m bummed about Human Target also, and Lie to Me.

    • #38784
      rattis
      Participant

      I’m disappointed by Human Target as well. However I think they messed with it to much from season 1 to season 2, and it hurt the show.

      Never saw Lie to Me. Was on my list to watch when I got time.

      As for Breaking In, part of me will miss it, part of me thinks wow it lasted this long to start with?

    • #38785
      SephStorm
      Participant

      I like Leverage.

    • #38786
      jason
      Participant

      I like Leverage as well. Looks like its due to start back up in June. Breaking In was pretty amusing, but it had two things going against it. First it had Christian Slater involved, and he seems to have the Sterculius touch as of late. Secondly, it was on Fox. I’ll never forgive Fox for what they did to Firefly, and have absolutely no confidence in them taking any reasonable action in relation to the quality any show, whatever it might happen to be  🙁

    • #38787
      BillV
      Participant

      Yes, this is an old thread. But has anyone else seen commercials on Fox announcing the season premiere of Breaking In (re)starting soon? Seems odd comsidering the attempted launch a year ago failed, and it never made it for a full season.

    • #38788
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      I saw that.  They brought Megan Mullally onboard for season 2 as well.  I didn’t see any of the season 1 eps, but Megan’s pretty funny.  Still waiting for eps to be posted on Hulu or Netflix (streaming).

    • #38789
      Triban
      Participant

      I saw as well, I like they are giving it another shot.  It had some potential and sometimes you need to give more than a single season to try something out.  Hmm, can we thank Anonymous for this? 😀

    • #38790
      YuckTheFankees
      Participant

      I’m glad this show is coming back, I personally thought it was pretty funny.

    • #38791
      hayabusa
      Participant

      It wasn’t bad… a bit on the cheesy side, but it IS television…  Looking forward to seeing what changes.  (I have season one ripped to dvd)

    • #38792
      BillV
      Participant

      Yeah, will be interesting regardless. Whatever article I read said Fox ordered 13 episodes.

    • #38793
      hayabusa
      Participant

      IMDB shows the 13 slots / dates, and episode names for the first 5:

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630574/episodes?season=2

    • #38794
      jason
      Participant

      Interesting. I’ll give it another shot. At least it was entertaining and did not contain CSI anywhere in the title.

    • #38795
      j0rDy
      Participant

      me too, as long as you dont expect heavy “geektalk” and see it as “mindless entertainment” you should be able to enjoy it…

    • #38796
      TheXero
      Participant

      I was a bit skeptical about the series when I first heard about it, but I really enjoyed the series and can’t wait for season 2 🙂

      The only downside I can see is that I can’t watch it online or on tv here in the UK.

    • #38797
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      I started watching “Breaking In” on Hulu this season and I think it’s pretty good.  Definitely not my fave show, but I’ve faved it on Hulu to know when new eps are released.

      But it looks like the show is in danger again…

      http://www.tv.com/news/fox-pulls-breaking-in-from-its-schedule-cancellation-is-imminent-for-real-this-time-28374/

    • #38798
      MaXe
      Participant

      Season 2 is definitely not as awesome as Season 1, it’s like it has lost a lot of its magic :-/ Furthermore, it’s almost as if they don’t want the viewers to keep their hopes up for better episodes, as it seems to be going downwards. It’s less and less about actual jobs they’re going to do, and more and more, about the problems internally at the office which is in my humble opinion, a bit boring in the long run.

      On occasion I think it’s fine, but the last couple of episodes if not all of Season 2, has so far been about internal problems at the office instead of some of the great jobs / gigs featured in Season 1.

      I hoped for a better (or great) episode a couple of days ago, only to see that they’re having a shorter break :-/ Out with the new boss, in with the old, the new boss’s assistant should be moved to the team imho, that would improve things a bit.

    • #38799
      jason
      Participant

      They’ve definitely jumped the shark with the second season. The first season was moderately clever and hackerish, the second is just a stupid office sitcom. It also appears to have indeed been canceled again:

      http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/04/12/breaking-in-canceled-again/128767/

    • #38800
      j0rDy
      Participant

      good or not, they lost my attention when odette left the series…

    • #38801
      hayabusa
      Participant

      @j0rDy wrote:

      good or not, they lost my attention when odette left the series…

      ++1

      The series wasn’t as bad, the first season, but they dumbed it down too much, now, and it’s just doesn’t have enough “broad” appeal.  (Both seriously, and as a play of words, on the female role  😛 )

    • #38802
      Triban
      Participant

      And it has been cancelled once again, don’t think it even finished the season.

    • #38803
      MaXe
      Participant

      That sucks, at least they could finish second season and make it more hackerish like the first season 🙂

    • #38804
      Triban
      Participant

      Well its Fox, it took them 3 cancellations of Family Guy before they realized they had a gold mine.  Maybe if SyFy (I hate writing it like that it seems… wrong…) picked it up and added more geek to it, it might do well.  Maybe they are just not throwing in enough buzz words 😀  They need to use APT or Cyberwar more often.  That is sure to sell it!

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