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    • #6110
      cd1zz
      Participant
    • #38203
      timmedin
      Participant

      Those guys have been cranking out releases recently.

    • #38204
      caissyd
      Participant

      we expect a release in a couple of months at least

      I can’t wait to get my hands on it!

    • #38205
      j0rDy
      Participant

      first i was like  ;D

      then i was like  >:( (only screenshots)

    • #38206
      mallaigh
      Participant

      When I saw the screenshots and realized I don’t have to go turnoff the transparent menus I was like  😀

    • #38207
      UNIX
      Participant

      Seems the official release date is May 10, 2011, according to their newsletter.

    • #38208
      caissyd
      Participant

      As BackTrack 5 development rolls on full steam ahead, we’ve been getting numerous questions about the future release. We thought we’de publish a blog post with general information about BT5 for the impatient. The codename of this release will be “revolution”, for a bunch of reasons.

      BackTrack 5 will be based on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04 LTS), and will (finally) support both 32 bit and 64 bit architectures. We will be officially supporting KDE 4, Gnome and Fluxbox while providing users streamlined ISO downloads of each Desktop Environment (DE). Tool integration from our repositories will be seamless with all our supported DE’s, including the specific DE menu structure.

      Perhaps most importantly BackTrack 5 “revolution” will be our first release to include full source code in it’s repositories. This is a big thing for us, as it officially joins us to the open-source community and clears up any licensing issues which were present in BackTrack 4. The absence of source code availability in BT4 was mainly due to lack of resources when we initially structured the BT4 development environment. Armed with our support from Offensive Security, we have built a *proper* development environment, which allows us to do awesome things.

      Our tool list has completely been revamped and refreshed. Each tool’s functionality was assessed and decided upon before inclusion to BT5. Obviously, we are constantly staying up to date with interesting new tools and are adding them to our repositories when appropriate. In addition, our menu structure has been much optimised – streamlined with both the PTES and OSSTMM standards. This will make finding and using the right tools much easier.

      We are finally able to upadte our roadmap and pin down a date for the release – The date for the official release is May 10, 2011.

      Stay tuned for more.

      Yes, it really seems to be a revolution!!!  ;D

    • #38209
      R3B005t
      Participant

      I do love me some BT, ive been running it in a vm on my macbook pro for awhile I’m finally toying around with the idea of dual booting it just to get cuda support but I might hold off till 5 comes out.

    • #38210
      jason
      Participant

      Awesome, BT with Gnome  ;D Having to sully myself with KDE has been my chief complaint about using it.

    • #38211
      tturner
      Participant

      You mean you don’t want to install Gnome and then rebuild your menu structure for 200some odd tools?  ;D

    • #38212
      Anonymous
      Participant

      nice to see BT with Gnome at last. ..but I’ll have to wait till BT6 I guess for xfce  :-…. or am I being too optimistic?

      ;D ;D

    • #38213
      AndyB67
      Participant

      Don’t know what all the fuss is about re the different desktops?  They are all so much better than the crap you get on windows!

      Just looking forward to the new release.  Got my external drive ready to backup my data ready for a clean install on my PC and laptop

    • #38214
      hayabusa
      Participant

      Besides…  Dunno about ya’ll, but 90% of the tools I use on BT are ‘command-line’ anyway!  Desktops are nice sometimes, I guess… ;-p

    • #38215
      Data_Raid
      Participant

      @hayabusa wrote:

      Besides…  Dunno about ya’ll, but 90% of the tools I use on BT are ‘command-line’ anyway!  Desktops are nice sometimes, I guess… ;-p

      Ratpoison! http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/  😀

    • #38216
      jason
      Participant

      True enough, but there are a few gui tools in there, such as OpenVAS, and its always nice to be able to run a bazilion terminals in a decent desktop environment. KDE is just icky  :-X

    • #38217
      hayabusa
      Participant

      Edit:  had to add, always funny seeing an ethical hacker use the term, “icky”  😛

    • #38218
      jason
      Participant

      Not only icky, but covered in cooties as well  8)

    • #38219
      EJeanmaire
      Participant

      Count me in as another person in favor of ditching kde.  I always seem to be in the minority in this but I hate the way it feels vs gnome.

    • #38220
      caissyd
      Participant

      +1 for gnome…

    • #38221
      rattis
      Participant

      Up to KDE4, KDE was my preferred GUI. However I’ve been Gnoming it out lately. I could really care less as long as I can get to a menu for the commands I’m not sure about.
      🙂

    • #38222
      R3B005t
      Participant

      @jason wrote:

      Not only icky, but covered in cooties as well  8)

      Well then I must say CIRCLE CIRCLE DOT DOT now I’ve got my cooties shot!

    • #38223
      cd1zz
      Participant

      The anticipation is agonizing, here are some new ones:

      http://www.backtrack-linux.org/screenshots/

    • #38224
      maxpeck
      Participant

      Getting the old ‘Birthday comin up’ feeling  ;D

      max

    • #38225
      caissyd
      Participant

      And the worse part will be that everyone will try to download it at the same time. It will be slow… 😛

    • #38226
      rattis
      Participant

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      And the worse part will be that everyone will try to download it at the same time. It will be slow… 😛

      That is what torrents are for. 🙂

    • #38227
      j0rDy
      Participant

      everytime this topic gets kicked i think: wait..did i miss it? i can’t be! ???

    • #38228
      zeroflaw
      Participant

      Sweet! I wonder if there are any new cool tools  8)

    • #38229
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Its looking good. Do most people use BT within a VM of some sort ?

    • #38230
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      I use VirtualBox for my BT “install.”  But then again, I don’t use it for my daytime job at the moment – only on my test lab at home 🙂

      Looking forward for what BT5 has to offer!

    • #38231
      rattis
      Participant

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      Its looking good. Do most people use BT within a VM of some sort ?

      Have mine on VirtualBox on my home laptop. I have a couple victim vms too. I do have a copy of it set for triple boot on my netbook but hardly use it.

    • #38232
      AndyB67
      Participant

      I’m greedy and I have BT4 as a dual boot (with ubuntu) on the laptop and the main OS on my ‘other’ PC (lower spec non gaming one).  ‘Other’ PC still has enough guts to allow me to run two VM’s at a time as targets.

    • #38233
      j0rDy
      Participant

      i still have it as a VM on my system, but i have great expectations for BT5, if it is more OS worthy (proper video driver/resolution support, flawless packets/application integration from the repositories etc.) it will become my main operating system. The new ubuntu (especially unity) is working on my nerves 😮

    • #38234
      cd1zz
      Participant

      I cant stand Unity either!

    • #38235
      Darktaurus
      Participant

      Anyone picking up any new hardware for the new Backtrack??  I am shooting for a SSD on the ol laptop.

    • #38236
      rattis
      Participant

      @KillJoy

      I’ve been thinking of building a new virtual lab, this might help light the fire. Maybe an SSD card for my netbook. But nothing just because of it, or for it to live on by itself.

    • #38237
      AndyB67
      Participant

      @cd1zz wrote:

      I cant stand Unity either!

      Have disabled it.  Better not have it in BT5

    • #38238
      R3B005t
      Participant

      Just got word it’s due for release in five days wooot

      http://www.backtrack-linux.org/backtrack/backtrack-5-release-in-5-days/

    • #38239
      j0rDy
      Participant

      @R3B005t wrote:

      Just got word it’s due for release in five days wooot

      http://www.backtrack-linux.org/backtrack/backtrack-5-release-in-5-days/

      On the right side of the blog page http://www.backtrack-linux.org/blog/ they have a counter, for all those who want a more specific ETA giving time zones and such.

    • #38240
      j0rDy
      Participant

      and again, offensive security gave us a little something something to ease the waiting: http://vimeo.com/offsec/backtrack5-penetration-testing-distribution

    • #38241
      caissyd
      Participant

      Interesting, posted by Muts the day before the release on @backtracklinux:

      Someone doesn’t want a BackTrack 5 release tomorrow. DOS on our backtrack-linux.org web server. Whoever it is, please stop.

      And then:

      DOS Mitigation by polite request. Looks like it worked. See you all tomorrow!

      I am sure this isn’t a DoS, it’s just me and a bunch of guys hitting “refresh” to be the first getting the new release!  ;D

    • #38242
      j0rDy
      Participant

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      Interesting, posted by Muts the day before the release on @backtracklinux:

      Someone doesn’t want a BackTrack 5 release tomorrow. DOS on our backtrack-linux.org web server. Whoever it is, please stop.

      And then:

      DOS Mitigation by polite request. Looks like it worked. See you all tomorrow!

      I am sure this isn’t a DoS, it’s just me and a bunch of guys hitting “refresh” to be the first getting the new release!  ;D

      please stop that so i can be first  ;D I also noticed the counter is way off…

    • #38243
      caissyd
      Participant

      I need to start installing it on my laptop tonight for my course starting Sunday in Dallas: http://www.takedowncon.com/?page_id=378

      I can’t wait!!!  😛

    • #38244
      cd1zz
      Participant

      Already 6.1% done …. torrent is moving nicely!

    • #38245
      Don Donzal
      Keymaster

      Getting mine as well. I went with the basic gnome_vm_32 for my makeshift lab-on-a-laptop to get a looksee. What is everyone else grabbing?

      Don

    • #38246
      hell_razor
      Participant

      Grabbing everything but ARM :).  I will seed for quite a while, though.  Anyone with a beef against torrenting has obviously never tried to get a day-of-release distro!!!

    • #38247
      cd1zz
      Participant

      Same exact for me. Interesting they didn’t offer the KDE as a VM…

    • #38248
      caissyd
      Participant

      BT5-GNOME-64 ISO for me!

    • #38249
      j0rDy
      Participant

      for me BT5-GNOME-64 ISO. Also grabbing the 32bit version to check if there is any difference.

    • #38250
      rattis
      Participant

      Figures, it would release after I left for work. Can’t get it at work. But that just means there should be more seeds for me later tonight. 🙂

      looking forward to it, I might need to use it in the morning to [s:1je7sbm7]break[/s:1je7sbm7] log into my company laptop, to do my work.

      *Edit:
      yes I’m kidding about breaking into the laptop.

    • #38251
      Darktaurus
      Participant

      @chrisj wrote:

      Figures, it would release after I left for work. Can’t get it at work. But that just means there should be more seeds for me later tonight. 🙂

      looking forward to it, I might need to use it in the morning to [s:gymx13df]break[/s:gymx13df] log into my company laptop, to do my work.

      *Edit:
      yes I’m kidding about breaking into the laptop.

      Same here, I am at work now dying to go home to download Gnome-64 iso.  I even stayed up till midnight just to check if they would release it at 12:01.  Oh well, I would have been up anyway.  Have fun guys with the new Backtrack.  I am sure the forum will be buzzing for a couple of days.  ;D

    • #38252
      caissyd
      Participant

      Ok, I have installed Backtrack 5 Gnome 64 bit yesterday along with VMWare Workstation, Nessus and some other little tools. So far, I have nothing to complain about. It will become my main OS.

      But I miss the little drop-down that used to be in the lower panel in Backtrack 4. I used it a lot for quickly typing commands such as “shutdown -h 0”, “reboot”, etc. Do you guys know how to put it back? I don’t even know how it’s called…  :-[

    • #38253
      jason
      Participant

      Installing Gnome 64-bit as we speak. I also pulled down the KDE version, just so I could put it on something to see the differences. Looks great so far from looking at it booted off the live cd.

    • #38254
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Gnome or KDE that is the question ? How comes you can only get a Gnome version for vmware ?

    • #38255
      Data_Raid
      Participant

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      Ok, I have installed Backtrack 5 Gnome 64 bit yesterday along with VMWare Workstation, Nessus and some other little tools. So far, I have nothing to complain about. It will become my main OS.

      But I miss the little drop-down that used to be in the lower panel in Backtrack 4. I used it a lot for quickly typing commands such as “shutdown -h 0”, “reboot”, etc. Do you guys know how to put it back? I don’t even know how it’s called…  :-[

      That’s the “Run Command” applet in KDE. For KDE, If you right click on the panel and then select “add applet to panel” and then search by scrolling down to the “run command” applet, then select “add to panel”.
      For Gnome it’s almost the same, right click on the panel and then select “add to panel” and then select “run application”, it’s not exactly the same as KDE (with a text box) but provides the same finctionality.

    • #38256
      rattis
      Participant

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      But I miss the little drop-down that used to be in the lower panel in Backtrack 4. I used it a lot for quickly typing commands such as “shutdown -h 0”, “reboot”, etc. Do you guys know how to put it back? I don’t even know how it’s called…  :-[

      I like alt-f2 for those needs in gnome

    • #38257
      caissyd
      Participant

      Thanks Data_Raid and chrisj, I will give it a try tonight.

    • #38258
      treasur3
      Participant

      Downloading the torrent now 🙂

    • #38259
      caissyd
      Participant

      From @backtracklinux on Twitter: 29637 downloads in 24 hours!

    • #38260
      f4csimil3
      Participant

      Finally its out i downloaded it yesterday as soon as it was made available!! 🙂
      now im happy!
      its really nice get it ASAP! ;D

    • #38261
      tturner
      Participant

      Slow or not, I wish there was a direct download link since we block torrents at work. Guess I’ll have to hoof it in from home.

    • #38262
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      A direct download is supposed to be available after a couple weeks or something like that…if you can hold out 😛

    • #38263
      tturner
      Participant

      Nope  ;D

    • #38264
      jason
      Participant

      Anyone else tried to get gdm to start automatically under the gnome version? It seems to be disabled somewhere that’s less than obvious (to me anyway)  :-[

    • #38265
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      I’ve tried as well, but with no luck so far.  Created /etc/init/gdm.conf on BT5, copying its contents from a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 install – didn’t work.  I then tried editting /etc/default/grub to match what’s on the Ubuntu 10.04 install and now BT won’t boot up anymore, it just hangs at the splash screen haha.

    • #38266
      caissyd
      Participant

      Another thing, did someone installed both Firefox 4 and Firefox 3.6?

      The default Firefox 4 doesn’t support some interesting plugins yet…

      I found this link for Windows: http://superuser.com/questions/160986/install-firefox-4-beta-alongside-firefox-3-6

      This for Macs: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-run-firefox-4-and-3-simultaneously-in-mac-os-x-with-multiple-firefox-profiles-2011-3

      It is probably feasible, based on this post: http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux

      I just want to know if someone was able to do it in Backtrack 5.

      Thanks

    • #38267
      Darktaurus
      Participant

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      Another thing, did someone installed both Firefox 4 and Firefox 3.6?

      The default Firefox 4 doesn’t support some interesting plugins yet…

      I found this link for Windows: http://superuser.com/questions/160986/install-firefox-4-beta-alongside-firefox-3-6

      This for Macs: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-run-firefox-4-and-3-simultaneously-in-mac-os-x-with-multiple-firefox-profiles-2011-3

      It is probably feasible, based on this post: http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux

      I just want to know if someone was able to do it in Backtrack 5.

      Thanks

      Not sure if this helps but they have given some ‘HowTos’ on the backtrack site for plugins for Firefox 4.  Maybe you can apply these steps for all plugins. I figure it is worth a shot.  I will be able to try this later tonight.  I can post later if this is successful for more missing plugins. 

      http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/backtrack-5-how-tos/40353-backtrack-5-how-get-flash-player-working-gnome-kde-x64.html

    • #38268
      hayabusa
      Participant

      I personally don’t autologin, but if you want it to autostart the gui AFTER root logs in, just vi (or whatever editor you want to use) your ~/.bash_profile, add startx and save it.  Next time you login as root, it’ll auto-start the gui.

    • #38269
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Can anyone help me with screen res problem? I am using KDE in vmware when it first boots I get res 800×600 However when I go full screen it looks crap so I change the res to 1200×900 and it looks perfect but as soon as I reboot it reverts back to 800×600 and I have to go thought the process again.

    • #38270
      Data_Raid
      Participant

      @jason wrote:

      Anyone else tried to get gdm to start automatically under the gnome version? It seems to be disabled somewhere that’s less than obvious (to me anyway)  :-[

      This is what I did on my system (might be worth taking a snapshot before):

      apt-get install gdm

      and then edit the /etc/rc.local file to start gdm automatically, which looks like this:

      /usr/sbin/gdm &
      exit 0
    • #38271
      sil
      Participant

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      Can anyone help me with screen res problem? I am using KDE in vmware when it first boots I get res 800×600 However when I go full screen it looks crap so I change the res to 1200×900 and it looks perfect but as soon as I reboot it reverts back to 800×600 and I have to go thought the process again.

      Add an entry in your .profile for xrandr…

      xrandr -s 1200×900

    • #38272
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Cool I thought I could was not sure how to do it tho I will try that 

    • #38273
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I have tried that and it does not seem to work any other ideas?

    • #38274
      jason
      Participant

      This is what I did on my system (might be worth taking a snapshot before):

      Nice. That did the trick.  8)

    • #38275
      Darktaurus
      Participant

      I just wanted to note a solution for the system beep in Backtrack 5 (Gnome x64) that I was having.  It is painfully loud.  Anyway, maybe someone else is having the same trouble: 

      In the terminal:
      run ‘alsamixer’
      move to PC Beep
      press m to mute
      press escape

    • #38276
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Fixed my problem too. How is everyone finding BT5 then ? At first i was a bit frustrating but now I have it all setup i and getting used to it I like it. I have not really noticed a big difference in programs but I do prefer the layout and general GUI improvements.

    • #38277
      cd1zz
      Participant

      Has anyone tried SPIKE on BT5 yet? I’m getting errors trying to run ./generic_send_tcp

      Just wondering if others are having the same issue.

      -C

      **Update**

      Just found a very old list item that discusses this, the solution is to go to the src directory and do:

      . ld.sh

      Then you can use the generic’s. I’ve found a couple of problems in BT5 already 🙂

    • #38278
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I have no tried Spike yet. One problem I have is when using VM ware if I set it to full screen the menu bar does not re size I have to do it by hand what is a bit of a pain.

    • #38279
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      @Jamie.R wrote:

      One problem I have is when using VM ware if I set it to full screen the menu bar does not re size I have to do it by hand what is a bit of a pain.

      Is that with the KDE or Gnome version?  I had that same problem with the 64bit KDE version.  Click on the yin yang button on the right-side of the bottom panel, click more settings, then click maximize panel.  Again, that’s for the KDE version.  A quick reboot (shutdown -r now) after doing that myself for the first time showed that setting saved through a reboot.

    • #38280
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Yah it does not save the setting soon as i change screen size then go back full screen I have to exactly what you said minus the shutdown. I will try it again tonight.

    • #38281
      Darktaurus
      Participant

      Anyone that is using Gnome, do you use NoteCase instead of Basket for your notes?  If so, do you think it is just as good, if not better?  I really got use to working with Basket.

    • #38282
      mrYoda
      Participant

      @Data_Raid wrote:

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      Ok, I have installed Backtrack 5 Gnome 64 bit yesterday along with VMWare Workstation, Nessus and some other little tools. So far, I have nothing to complain about. It will become my main OS.

      But I miss the little drop-down that used to be in the lower panel in Backtrack 4. I used it a lot for quickly typing commands such as “shutdown -h 0”, “reboot”, etc. Do you guys know how to put it back? I don’t even know how it’s called…  :-[

      That’s the “Run Command” applet in KDE. For KDE, If you right click on the panel and then select “add applet to panel” and then search by scrolling down to the “run command” applet, then select “add to panel”.
      For Gnome it’s almost the same, right click on the panel and then select “add to panel” and then select “run application”, it’s not exactly the same as KDE (with a text box) but provides the same finctionality.

      I don’t get the “add applet to panel” with 32-bit KDE installation. Therea re only widgets to add and there is no run command widget among them. Any ideas?

    • #38283
      lorddicranius
      Participant

      @mrYoda wrote:

      @Data_Raid wrote:

      @H1t M0nk3y wrote:

      Ok, I have installed Backtrack 5 Gnome 64 bit yesterday along with VMWare Workstation, Nessus and some other little tools. So far, I have nothing to complain about. It will become my main OS.

      But I miss the little drop-down that used to be in the lower panel in Backtrack 4. I used it a lot for quickly typing commands such as “shutdown -h 0”, “reboot”, etc. Do you guys know how to put it back? I don’t even know how it’s called…  :-[

      That’s the “Run Command” applet in KDE. For KDE, If you right click on the panel and then select “add applet to panel” and then search by scrolling down to the “run command” applet, then select “add to panel”.
      For Gnome it’s almost the same, right click on the panel and then select “add to panel” and then select “run application”, it’s not exactly the same as KDE (with a text box) but provides the same finctionality.

      I don’t get the “add applet to panel” with 32-bit KDE installation. Therea re only widgets to add and there is no run command widget among them. Any ideas?

      ALT+F2 will drop a box from the top of the screen that’ll give you the same functionality.

    • #38284
      Anonymous
      Participant

      The BT dev team posted on twitter they will be working on bugs and adding more new tools this week.

    • #38285
      AndyB67
      Participant

      I’ve got the ISO’s sat here screaming at me to install them and i’ve not had the chance yet as it’s been so manic round here this last few weeks!

      Really need to look at getting the installs done this week.

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