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Hi Me again asking about course comparisons! Which course would you guys recommend out of Intermediate Penetration Testing Course – Version 2 and Offensive Security Pentesting with Backtrack? Any thoughts welcome  |
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Vedder
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 03:30:39 AM » |
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I think that the OSCP is more widely known and respected.
Give the Heorot more time and it will become more recognised.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 03:14:54 PM » |
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I can only speak for OSCP and it kicks ass! I highly recommend it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 12:30:08 AM » |
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I second Vedder's post. Although the course from Heorot is probably good as well, it is not as known as OSCP. If you have any specific questions about Heorot you can ask Grendel here at the forums, who's the author of it.  |
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T_Bone
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 10:51:51 AM » |
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Thanks for the replies, i have to admit i have been looking at the OSCP for a while now and was going to go for it before i saw the Heorot intermediate course. What enticed me towards the Heorot course is that the course description includes the Application of the OSSTMM within a penetration test and Detailed coverage of how to document your results, which are important things you need to know to become a pen tester (which is my aim).
I don't think the OSCP covers this?
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T_Bone
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 10:53:04 AM » |
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Although i have noticed that EH is now reviewing the OSCP course so could now just wait and see what is said and then decide! |
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Manu Zacharia (-M-)
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 10:57:16 AM » |
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I second T_Bone.
Infact I am also looking for some resource and/or course that presents PT from a business point of view. For example, Engagement Model for a Pen Test, Agreements and Documents that needs to be prepared before the test, deliverables etc.
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Manu Zacharia
MVP (Enterprise Security), ISLA-2010 (ISC)², C|EH, C|HFI, CCNA, MCP,
Certified ISO 27001:2005 Lead Auditor
There are 3 roads to spoil; women, gambling & hacking. The most pleasant with women, the quickest with gambling, but the surest is hacking - c0c0n
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 02:26:23 PM » |
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I have also worked out an arrangement with grendel for jhaddix to review the upcoming v2 of the course. Then we can have some real discussions with reviews of all the major courses out there. I'm going to start a new thread getting opinions on reviews.
Stay tuned,
Don
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 10:06:36 PM » |
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I second T_Bone.
Infact I am also looking for some resource and/or course that presents PT from a business point of view. For example, Engagement Model for a Pen Test, Agreements and Documents that needs to be prepared before the test, deliverables etc.
I just completed the Sans GPEN560 and that topic is covered quite well. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2009, 10:20:05 PM » |
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GPEN is good, Heorot covers some additional logistics. Its very hard to compare. I haven't gotten the chance to see the new training yet though, looking forward to reviewing it.
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T_Bone
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 04:09:48 AM » |
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GPEN is good, Heorot covers some additional logistics. Its very hard to compare. I haven't gotten the chance to see the new training yet though, looking forward to reviewing it.
Yeah GPEN sounds good but unfortunately is out of my budget (unless i manage to get another facilitator position as i did for the GCIH) |
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T_Bone
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 04:10:59 AM » |
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I have also worked out an arrangement with grendel for jhaddix to review the upcoming v2 of the course. Then we can have some real discussions with reviews of all the major courses out there. I'm going to start a new thread getting opinions on reviews.
Stay tuned,
Don
Thanks Don, that is great news, looking forward to it! |
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009, 12:11:29 AM » |
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GPEN is good, Heorot covers some additional logistics. Its very hard to compare. I haven't gotten the chance to see the new training yet though, looking forward to reviewing it.
I am really looking forward to seeing a comparison. |
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T_Bone
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 04:23:15 PM » |
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Wow, now there is another potential candidate... ELearnSecurity to be released soon! This is excellent news but now adds to the confusion of which "affordable" course to take as SANS, etc are too expensive to afford if you are paying out of your own pocket!
Heorot.net Intermediate Penetration Testing Course Vs Offensive security and eventually elearnsecurity!
Now I really do not know, but at least the comparison of the first two will help initially!
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T_Bone
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2009, 04:26:36 PM » |
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My Other problem is, if i dare try and perform each of these courses, all the time will probably result in me being single! .... i am sure my partner would be very un-impressed!
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