Home
Calendar
Certifications
Columns
Features
Forum
Resources
Vitals
Latest Additions
April 2013 Free Giveaway Sponsor - eLearnSecurity
Human Intelligence to Navigate the Security Data Deluge
February 2013 Free Giveaway Winner of SANS CyberCon Training
Interview: Bugcrowd Founders on Herding Ninjas for Crowdsourced Bug Bounties
Network Forensics: The Tree in the Forest
March 2013 Free Giveaway Sponsor - Mile2
Book Review: Violent Python
February 2013 Free Giveaway Sponsor - SANS
Holiday 2012 Free Giveaway Winner of Metasploit Pro by Rapid7
Course Review: SANS FOR408 Computer Forensic Investigations – Windows In-Depth
The Security Consulting Sugar High
Tutorial: Fun with SMB on the Command Line
Interview: Ilia Kolochenko, CEO of High-Tech Bridge
October 2012 Free Giveaway Winner of LearningGate Training
The Broken: Assessing Corporate Security in 2012 to Make a Better 2013
EH-Net Login
Welcome Guest.
Username:
Password:
Remember me
Lost Password?
No account yet?
Register
Who's Online
We have 28 guests online
Free Business and Tech Magazines and eBooks
You are here:
Home
Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications
General Certification
Pick a cert, any cert
EH-Net
May 25, 2013, 09:21:45 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
: Go back to The Ethical Hacker Network Online Magazine
Home Page
Home
Help
Calendar
Login
Register
EH-Net
>
Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications
>
General Certification
(Moderator:
don
) >
Pick a cert, any cert
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Pick a cert, any cert (Read 6538 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
plik
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 31
Pick a cert, any cert
«
on:
December 19, 2006, 03:26:45 PM »
Ok, I've got an apraisal at work on Fri and I'm wondering what training/exams to ask for. It will be InfoSec related if I get my way. I work for an ISP so swinging it won't be too difficult (I hope!).
Now the training budget isn't huge so I may have to home study, which doesn't bother me, as long as they pay
I'm CCNA/MCP trained and have about 7yrs in IT, currently about halfway through, and taking a break from, a BSc in IT/Comp Sci. I've been interested in computer security for about as long as I've been in the IT trade, but haven't really
studied
it, just picked up books, read tutorials and played with various "l33t skillz"
websites. I'm not looking for something that will get me a new job, just a stepping stone to more advanced qualifications that might.
I took a quick look at test questions for the CompTIA Sec+ and think I could sail that with only a little bit of study, but the pen test exams seem a bit more hands on.
How do the CEH and CPTS compare to Sec+? Are there any other certs people would recomend taking?
Oh, and I've got to be able to get it here in the UK, I don't think work'll shell out for plane tickets.
Any views would be gladly taken into account.
Cheers,
plik.
I was going to tack this on to an old thread, but it suggested I start a new one as it was ancent, so here are the answer to the questions asked in that thread:
Aim for Management or stay Geek? - Geek! all the way!
Networking/Servers/Clients? - Everything and anything (see above)
Logged
LSOChris
Guest
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #1 on:
December 19, 2006, 03:54:36 PM »
others may disagree, but i think CEH/CPTS are basically the next step after Sec+...you'll have to evaluate where you are with the Security+ objectives on if you need to actually take the exam or not.
as a (somewhat bad) analogy i would say that Security+ expects you to know things about security and threats to your network's security where CEH/CPTS you are kinda expected to know how to conduct those threats to your network's security.
Logged
d1spat3r
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 28
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #2 on:
December 19, 2006, 04:26:11 PM »
I think another good source for learning is Sans. I taken multiple courses from them and have always rated them top notch. You could try something like the OnDemand, @home or other various methods. If you can go to a conference, do it. The knowledge you get from the instructors is excellent.
there was also a recent comparison done between all the certs (but I can't seem to find it now) that had some good details in it.
I can't say anything about CEH/CPTS as I have not gone through them.
What part of security do you want to get into is the main question? Depending upon that reply the certs to go for may change.
Logged
CISSP, GSEC, GCFA
plik
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 31
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #3 on:
December 19, 2006, 04:48:44 PM »
Quote from: d1spat3r on December 19, 2006, 04:26:11 PM
What part of security do you want to get into is the main question? Depending upon that reply the certs to go for may change.
That's the thing, I'm not totally sure. Closest thing to security I've done have just been bits of roles in the past, it's been server and data, currently it's more internet/network security, but I've always had a thing for finding holes in things so pen test would be a logical step. I do spend time with IDS and honeypots/nets at home, I also like following the latest ways the underground find to keep under the radar (but I never find out until it's on the radar!) but I've not got any expert knowledge in any one field so doubt I could get into research.
Forensics might be another path, it seems a bit sadistic but give me a dir of logs or packet captures and an incident to piece together and I'm a happy bunny
«
Last Edit: December 19, 2006, 04:58:11 PM by plik
»
Logged
nebu10uz
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 368
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #4 on:
December 19, 2006, 06:53:48 PM »
Hey plik, I have a link to a good article regarding security certs. Hope this help.
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid14_gci990011,00.html
Logged
Security+, OSCP, CEH
don
Editor-In-Chief
Administrator
Hero Member
Online
Posts: 4169
Editor-In-Chief
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #5 on:
December 20, 2006, 01:40:45 AM »
Seems like your thinking is on the right track. Since you are looking for the more technical track as opposed to the management track, forensics could be for you. But as one investigator told me, be careful as to what field you enter. You may get involved in cases that require you to see information that you can never get out of your head. It's just like a cop dealing with murder cases. You may do a lot of good, but there is a price. Unless you stay specifically on the network forensics side, but there is always a chance for those odd cases.
You may also want to look at our sister site,
CSP Mag
.
Hope this helps,
Don
Logged
CISSP, MCSE, CSTA, Security+ SME
plik
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 31
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #6 on:
December 20, 2006, 03:20:18 AM »
Quote from: blackazarro on December 19, 2006, 06:53:48 PM
Hey plik, I have a link to a good article regarding security certs. Hope this help.
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid14_gci990011,00.html
Cheers, I'll read and inwardly digest.
Don: Yeah I'm quite aware that forensics would probably lead to me seeing a few things that would be f'd up. I'd think that it's one of the most likely professions for that. The few times I've had to pull data together for the police have creeped me out, and that was just logs.
Logged
d1spat3r
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 28
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #7 on:
December 20, 2006, 12:37:54 PM »
Yes forensics can be a bad thing...
A little off topic but...
Every time I go to my brothers house he "requests" my help on his computer. Of course I always forget to tell him to 'clean up' his office before I go work on his computer. Without fail he always forgets one/two photos lying around on the desk... I seriously think he does it for fun to watch my reaction.
Oh... the photos well let's just say he is a deputy coroner and the photos are always extremely graphic. Needless to say I don't eat much while I am at his house.
Logged
CISSP, GSEC, GCFA
plik
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 31
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #8 on:
December 21, 2006, 05:00:47 PM »
Well thanks for the input, I've got a better idea about what to ask for now.
And on top of that I've found the exams are cheaper that I first thought, so I might just take a couple anyway!
I'll let you know how it goes.
Logged
plik
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 31
Re: Pick a cert, any cert
«
Reply #9 on:
December 22, 2006, 05:30:38 AM »
Well I got them to agree to paying for the Sec+ and CPTS exams (no training tho' boo!) and giving me some time to study which is a win! The trade off was doing ITIL and Project Management training too, which don't grab me but will keep them happy and look good on the CV. (there was also a rather ominous sounding "and any other training we think you'll need"....)
Thanks again guys for the input.
plik
Logged
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
EH-Net
-----------------------------
=> Calendar Of Events
===> ChicagoCon 2007
===> ChicagoCon 2008s
===> ChicagoCon 2008f
===> ChicagoCon 2009s
=> Ethical Hacktivism
=> News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net
===> Greetings
=> Special Events
-----------------------------
Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications
-----------------------------
=> General Certification
===> Networking
===> OS
===> Security
=> Compliance, Regulations & Standards
=> Control Systems
=> Cyber Warfare
=> Forensics
===> CCE / MCCE - (Master) Certified Computer Examiner
===> CHFI - Computer Hacking Forensic Investigator
===> EnCE - EnCase® Certified Examiner
===> GCFA - GIAC Certified Forensics Analyst
=> Hardware
=> Incident Response
===> CSIH - Computer Security Incident Handler
===> GCIH - GIAC Certified Incident Handler
=> Malware
===> Advisories
=> Mobile
=> Network Pen Testing
===> CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker
===> CPTC - Certified Penetration Testing Consultant
===> CPTE - Certified Penetration Testing Engineer
===> CSTA - Certified Security Testing Associate
===> eCPPT - eLearnSecurity Certified Professional Penetration Tester
===> ECSA - EC-Council Certified Security Analyst
===> GPEN - GIAC Certified Penetration Tester
===> OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional
=> Physical Security
=> Programming
=> Social Engineering
=> Web Applications
=> Wireless
===> CWNP Certs
===> GAWN - GIAC Assessing Wireless Networks
===> OSWP - Offensive Security Wireless Professional
=> Other
-----------------------------
Columns
-----------------------------
=> Editor-In-Chief
=> Andress
=> Gates
=> Haddix
=> Hadnagy
=> Heffner
=> Hoffman
=> Linn
=> RichM
=> Murray
=> J. Peltier
=> Weidman
=> Wilson
-----------------------------
Features
-----------------------------
=> /root
=> Book Reviews
=> Opinions
=> Skillz
===> Examples
===> May 06 - Star Hacks, Episode V: The Empire Hacks Back
===> July 06 - Hack Bill!
===> Sept 06 - Netcat in the Hat
===> Nov 06 - Hitch-Hackers Guide to the Galaxy
===> Dec 06 - A Christmas (Hacking) Story
===> Feb 07 - Charlottes Web Site
===> April 07 - Microsoft Office Space
===> June 07 - Serenity Hack
===> Oct 07 - Worst. Ethical. Hacker. Challenge. Ever.
===> Dec 07 - Frosty the Snow Crash
===> March 2008 - It Happened One Friday
===> Oct 2008 - Scooby Doo and the Crypto Caper
===> Dec 08 - Santa Claus Is Hacking to Town
===> Feb 2009 - Brady Bunch Boondoggle
===> July 2009 - Prison Break
===> October 2009 - SSHliders
===> December 2009 - Miracle on Thirty-Hack Street
===> December 2010 - The Nightmare Before Charlie Browns Christmas
-----------------------------
Resources
-----------------------------
=> Career Central
===> Looking For Work
===> Looking To Hire
=> Links to cool sites.
=> Mass Media
=> News from the Outside World
=> Tools
=> Tutorials
===> Tutorial Requests
Loading...
Exclusive Deal
SANSFIRE 2013
June 15 - 22
5% Off
w/ Code
:
EHN_5
SANS Deals 4 EH-Netters
5% OFF
Any
SANS Course
in Any Format!
Coupon Code:
EHN_5
Including
SANS Rocky Mountain 2013
&
SANS Boston 2013
Polls
Compared to this year, 2013 will be:
Great!
Better.
About the same.
Little worse.
FUBAR!
Recent Forum Topics
News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net
: Change is Coming to EH-Net!!
(30) by
don
Tools
: Symbolic Exploit Assistant project is looking for collaborators
(0) by
galapag0
Greetings
: Hi from the UK
(5) by
prats84
GCIH - GIAC Certified Incident Handler
: Passed my GCIH
(9) by
prats84
Network Pen Testing
: Want a challenge? Want a GXPN practice exam?
(0) by
ajohnson
GCIH - GIAC Certified Incident Handler
: GCIH Free Practice test attempt
(1) by
prats84
EH-Net News Feeds
Latest Additions
Privacy Notice
for TDCC & All Properties
© 2013 The Ethical Hacker Network
Joomla!
is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL License.