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Learning lock picking

« on: August 27, 2012, 05:21:57 PM »

I would appreciate some advice on learning the fundamental basics of lock picking.

From what I've read the following books seem like they may be a good resource for me to start with:

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Lock-Picking-Physical-Penetration/dp/1597496111/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346095105&sr=8-1&keywords=lock+picking

http://www.amazon.com/Visual-Guide-Lock-Picking-Third/dp/0970978863/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1346096850&sr=1-1&keywords=visual+guide+to+lock

Are these good choices or are there better alternatives?

Also, any recommendation's for practice locks and pick sets for a beginner would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2012, 08:30:26 PM »

There are a ton of youtube videos that will get you going in the beginning. I started on basic master locks, they're pretty easy to start on. I'm not advanced at all but I can get through the basics.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 11:43:23 PM »

The Syngress book is really good. Just be prepared to spend some time getting up to speed with the background info it starts with. It doesn't dive right into the good stuff.

At DefCon 2011, I bought a set of the Beginner Blend Pick Kit and the Progressive Picking Training Locks: http://toool.us/equipment.html That's more than enough to get started with.

It's really something you just need to practice and learn to "feel." Books and videos will help you with the general concepts, but nothing's going to compare to hands-on experience.

Don't take that to mean I know what I'm doing though; I'm still fairly awful myself.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 01:01:23 AM »

If you are not in a hurry, you might want to wait until October, when the second edition of Practical Lock Picking will be available. The first edition was a nice read, so it's most likely the second one will be even better. However, as ajohnson said, lock picking is really something you "need to practice and learn to feel".


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 02:27:35 AM »

It also might be worth doing a course if you have the money and depending on how much you want to learn.

This site maybe useful depening where you are in the world..
http://www.ukbumpkeys.com/videos.php


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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 09:33:59 AM »

Check to see if there's a local TOOOL or Lock Sport International (LSI) group near you. Easiest way is to go to a meeting and get hands on learnin'. If there are no groups local to you, then see everything above this post.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 01:35:49 PM »

Thanks for the replies everyone.

@rance I've managed to find a monthly lock picking meet at a hackspace not too far away.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 02:05:27 PM »

Quote from: m0wgli on August 28, 2012, 01:35:49 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone.

@rance I've managed to find a monthly lock picking meet at a hackspace not too far away.

That's excellent, they should give you good learnin' from the get go. The last piece of advice I'll give is, don't learn to pick on a cut away. Use it to understand the inner workings of a/the lock, but te art of picking is in the feel, and if you rely on your eyes as you learn, you'll be at a disadvantage.

Keep us up to date on how your skills are coming along!

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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 02:43:25 AM »

Thanks for the advice on the cutaway's, I'll make sure to follow it.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 06:32:50 PM »

I happen to know, on good authority, that there will be a lock picking village at DerbyCon in September. That is one of the best ways to learn I think. Actually give it a whirl! Cheesy


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 06:54:28 AM »

Check out Schuyler Towne's video series:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL66CD42F86F3A1F85&feature=plcp

Other than that, Deviant's book is fantastic!!!


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 05:13:01 PM »

Quote from: 3xban on August 29, 2012, 06:32:50 PM

I happen to know, on good authority, that there will be a lock picking village at DerbyCon in September. That is one of the best ways to learn I think. Actually give it a whirl! Cheesy

As much as I'd love to attend Derbycon, I can't this year. A vast expanse of water and insuffcient funds are standing in my way. Sad

Quote from: ziggy_567 on August 31, 2012, 06:54:28 AM

Check out Schuyler Towne's video series:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL66CD42F86F3A1F85&feature=plcp

Other than that, Deviant's book is fantastic!!!

Thanks for the link. I thought I'd take a quick look, I ended up watching half the series. I'll finish the rest off tomorrow.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 09:11:05 PM »

There will also be a class with Deviant Ollam at DerbyCon:

https://www.derbycon.com/training-courses/

Looks like there are still slots left, as of now


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2012, 01:49:44 AM »

Quote from: jason on August 31, 2012, 09:11:05 PM

There will also be a class with Deviant Ollam at DerbyCon:

https://www.derbycon.com/training-courses/

Looks like there are still slots left, as of now

While no doubt a good class, probably overkill for someone that just wants to learn to pick.


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Re: Learning lock picking

« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2012, 03:31:53 PM »

great resources thanx of-course physical security is always important


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