Hi guys,
I have a question about my new artile or its better to say i wanna put it in vote so here is the idea:

Im writing an article about how to create undetectable viruses and trojan without knowing any programming language and i dont want to use malware builders like prorat too,

So what do u think about my article is it a good field to research ? Thanx

No ideas?

as far as your topic goes, well creating custom code is certainly one way to get past signature based scanners.  If it is new code, with new hashes and new behavior, well you will certainly be able to hide from the average home AV.  Enterprise AVs will run things like App control and heuristic scanning.  Both of which are tougher to bypass.

And don't submit your own samples to Virustotal

Let me get this straight.

You are going to write an article about how to code virus code without knowing any coding language and the goal is to bypass the smartest coders in this world with you knowing no coding language. That's not even funny anymore.

In what language is it going to be then ? L33t v3.0 ?

Please stop trolling, you won the price last month of the poster with the most posts and got the free training, there's no need to post like a mad man saying NOTHING anymore.

Thank you.

ouch, yeah ignore that comment man.  Though there is something to consider, I've looked at some pretty advanced samples that made it past the typical checks, one may even call them "persistent" .  So you may not be able to avoid the coding part.  What you can do is write a defensive article on how one protects against this type of malware.  That will be some good research for you.

@cyber.spirit - I think you should definitely put the time / research in, and write your article.  Regardless of sternone's remarks or thinking, IF you learn from the experience, then it's a worthwhile effort.  If others learn, too, then all the better.

@sternone - I'm happy to see you advancing in Offsec's labs, however, I think your 'play-by-play', as someone called it, is borderline on giving other students too much information.  The post where you pointed out the multi-NIC machine, for instance, OS and all (even without giving the IP's) is enough to have people openly going looking for that box.  While yes, there is something to hitting the other parts of the network, if they start focusing on that, there's a lot of other machines that they might 'skip', thinking the importance of reaching the admin network, for instance, is of utmost importance.  They'll miss out on learning topics from the remaining lab boxes.

I know you didn't give away the proverbial 'keys to the kingdom' or anything, but I think you're teetering on the fencepost.  Also, please note the next bit, here, is not an attack, but...  In addition, attacking cyber.spirit's article idea, when 'tooting your own horn', constantly, after every exploit you achieve in the OSCP lab, leaves me thinking you're out for self-promotion and glory.  Doesn't leave me much more interested in your future writings, either.

Be tactful and respectful, please.

Thanks for your reaction.

I really watch out not to disclose anything that would blow it for future lab customers. You know that very well.

About the multihomed machine, well, if they don't get that, they are not in the right place. It's Offensive's own document who shows the network layout, not my posts. I don't need any glory. I would like you to explain me what all the other posts on the forums are for, are they only done for Glory ? Please elaborate. I learn from other's people posts and maybe some would do the same from my posts. Are you affiliated with Offensive Security ? You sure sound like it after I gave 'some small' critical remarks about it your tone completely changed.

About cyber.spirit, he's allowed to post whatever he wants to. I would say that counts both ways, People can say whatever they want to in reply to my posts, again, that works both ways. If you don't like it, well then you shouldn't go on a 'forum' at all.

Hey hey hey sternone i'm not going to publish this article just because of the prize because i already won it. I'm always active in this forum and i'll publish alot of my articles  here soon because i do love this great forum no mattar if you like it or not.

No man your a specialist in l33t programming not me!!! If you dont know how to create useful or harmful programs without using any programming language it dosent mean its impossible.