Home
Calendar
Certifications
Columns
Features
Forum
Resources
Vitals
Latest Additions
April 2013 Free Giveaway Sponsor - eLearnSecurity
Human Intelligence to Navigate the Security Data Deluge
February 2013 Free Giveaway Winner of SANS CyberCon Training
Interview: Bugcrowd Founders on Herding Ninjas for Crowdsourced Bug Bounties
Network Forensics: The Tree in the Forest
March 2013 Free Giveaway Sponsor - Mile2
Book Review: Violent Python
February 2013 Free Giveaway Sponsor - SANS
Holiday 2012 Free Giveaway Winner of Metasploit Pro by Rapid7
Course Review: SANS FOR408 Computer Forensic Investigations – Windows In-Depth
The Security Consulting Sugar High
Tutorial: Fun with SMB on the Command Line
Interview: Ilia Kolochenko, CEO of High-Tech Bridge
October 2012 Free Giveaway Winner of LearningGate Training
The Broken: Assessing Corporate Security in 2012 to Make a Better 2013
EH-Net Login
Welcome Guest.
Username:
Password:
Remember me
Lost Password?
No account yet?
Register
Who's Online
We have 25 guests online
Free Business and Tech Magazines and eBooks
You are here:
Home
Resources
Career Central
Questions From a Retiree
EH-Net
May 19, 2013, 04:10:57 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
: Go back to The Ethical Hacker Network Online Magazine
Home Page
Home
Help
Calendar
Login
Register
EH-Net
>
Resources
>
Career Central
(Moderator:
don
) >
Questions From a Retiree
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Questions From a Retiree (Read 3779 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
CyCurious
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 8
Questions From a Retiree
«
on:
August 15, 2012, 09:46:21 AM »
Hello guys and gals of EH!
I've noticed that for some reason it is the younger folks and folks in the middle of their careers that are asking questions over here; why is that? Just kidding
I've recently taken a medical retirement and have been searching for the meaning of life. Ok, ok, I've been looking for something meaningful--and challenging--to do, which would, ideally, also supplement my disability income. And here I am.
There are a few questions that I'd like to ask, but most of them are conditional on the one that I'm going to start with. But first, let me give you some relevant background.
After having completed my degree in electrical engineering in the early 80s, I worked as an engineer for about eight years, then changed careers and did a couple of advanced degrees in totally unrelated fields. Yet, I had to move in 1999 and changed track again: in 2000, I completed a two year diploma in programming (C, C++, VB, HTML, Hardware, Networking) and worked for a year as a programmer analyst. Had to move again and returned to my old, unrelated, career until retirement. I'm 55, and here's my question.
Assuming I did a lot of reading etc., did a few levels at the Hacking Dojo, took an online course from Offensive Security, and eventually took and passed a certification exam, such as OSCP, do you think it would be possible at all for someone like me, who didn't really have any meaningful career in the industry, to find a part-time freelance job in penetration testing?
Many thanks.
P.S. I'm located in Canada
Logged
sternone
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 129
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #1 on:
August 15, 2012, 10:09:41 AM »
Sure, why not. In life, everything is possible. The Question is: How hard do you want it, and how much sacrifice are you willing to deliver ?
Nothing comes easy. There are way more easier things to choose in life than being a good Pentester. Pentesting demands it all from you, and then even more.
Logged
Try harder....hmpf!!
CyCurious
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 8
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #2 on:
August 15, 2012, 10:22:59 AM »
Having always been a workaholic and having studied a lot in my life, I'm not afraid of sacrifice if by that you mean the time and energy. Pentesting seems like an exciting and challenging work, and that's what looks attractive to me.
Logged
Grendel
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 239
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #3 on:
August 15, 2012, 10:29:56 AM »
Currently there is a dearth of professional penetration testers in the field - companies are finally realizing that they need to improve their security posture in order to stay competitive (it's not just an expense for them anymore - it's a business incentive).
Considering a lot of work in this field is also being done remotely and through the use of conference calls, I think age, handicaps and limitations of any sort will soon be immaterial in this job. So yeah, go for it.
Logged
- Thomas Wilhelm, MSCS MSM
ISSMP CISSP SCSECA SCNA IEM
Web Site:
http://HackingDojo.com
Author:
Professional Penetration Testing
Ninja Hacking
Penetration Tester's Open Source Toolkit
Metasploit Toolkit for Penetration Testing
Netcat Power Tools
CyCurious
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 8
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #4 on:
August 15, 2012, 10:34:55 AM »
Thanks for the encouraging post, Grendel.
Logged
Jamie.R
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 429
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #5 on:
August 15, 2012, 12:09:35 PM »
I think its possible for anyone to do anything if you just follow your heart and work hard it will come maybe not a day a week or a month but once people see your pashion about something that counts for a lot.
Logged
OSWP | Hackingdojo Nidan | eCPPT
hayabusa
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1630
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #6 on:
August 15, 2012, 03:39:51 PM »
Quote from: Grendel on August 15, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
Currently there is a dearth of professional penetration testers in the field - companies are finally realizing that they need to improve their security posture in order to stay competitive (it's not just an expense for them anymore - it's a business incentive).
Considering a lot of work in this field is also being done remotely and through the use of conference calls, I think age, handicaps and limitations of any sort will soon be immaterial in this job. So yeah, go for it.
<what he said ^ >
Logged
~ hayabusa ~
"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved." - Sun Tzu, 'The Art of War'
OSCE, OSCP , GPEN, C|EH
jjwinter
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 75
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #7 on:
August 15, 2012, 04:56:54 PM »
If you can pull off a certain amount of gravitas, your age could be a bonus. I would think that most potential clients would really just care that you seem to know what you are doing, and you present yourself well. And that you can document your findings in a way that management can grasp, and enough technical knowledge to demonstrate expertise to their internal IT staff.
Logged
Jamie.R
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 429
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #8 on:
August 16, 2012, 03:15:59 AM »
Yes I cant agree with jjwinter more its all about how skilled you are and how you come across.
Logged
OSWP | Hackingdojo Nidan | eCPPT
CyCurious
Newbie
Offline
Posts: 8
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #9 on:
August 16, 2012, 08:26:09 AM »
Thanks for you feedback, guys! I'm still excited about PT, and I think I'm going to start by reviewing my TCP/IP, Assembly, UNIX, C++, and perhaps by giving a shot to the Dojo for a month to see if I like it over there. I'd be interested in reading a more up-to-date comparative review of the training courses, but perhaps I should create a new topic on a different board for that.
Thank you all
«
Last Edit: August 16, 2012, 09:12:18 AM by CyCurious
»
Logged
ajohnson
Recruiters
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1056
aka dynamik
Re: Questions From a Retiree
«
Reply #10 on:
August 16, 2012, 10:08:56 AM »
Quote from: CyCurious on August 16, 2012, 08:26:09 AM
Thanks for you feedback, guys! I'm still excited about PT, and I think I'm going to start by reviewing my TCP/IP, Assembly, UNIX, C++, and perhaps by giving a shot to the Dojo for a month to see if I like it over there. I'd be interested in reading a more up-to-date comparative review of the training courses, but perhaps I should create a new topic on a different board for that.
Thank you all
That'll all give you a solid foundation. The Dojo is probably a good place for you to start. It can be beneficial to have someone to ask questions to when you're just getting started. There's several other high-quality training providers out there, but the majority are self-study. While they often have forums and/or IRC channels available, you're usually left to your own devices and told to try harder. That's great if you're trying to take your skills to the next left, but it can be discouraging for novices who are just starting out.
Logged
WIP: GCFA |
www.infosiege.net
| @infosiege
The day you stop learning is the day you start becoming obsolete.
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
EH-Net
-----------------------------
=> Calendar Of Events
===> ChicagoCon 2007
===> ChicagoCon 2008s
===> ChicagoCon 2008f
===> ChicagoCon 2009s
=> Ethical Hacktivism
=> News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net
===> Greetings
=> Special Events
-----------------------------
Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications
-----------------------------
=> General Certification
===> Networking
===> OS
===> Security
=> Compliance, Regulations & Standards
=> Control Systems
=> Cyber Warfare
=> Forensics
===> CCE / MCCE - (Master) Certified Computer Examiner
===> CHFI - Computer Hacking Forensic Investigator
===> EnCE - EnCase® Certified Examiner
===> GCFA - GIAC Certified Forensics Analyst
=> Hardware
=> Incident Response
===> CSIH - Computer Security Incident Handler
===> GCIH - GIAC Certified Incident Handler
=> Malware
===> Advisories
=> Mobile
=> Network Pen Testing
===> CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker
===> CPTC - Certified Penetration Testing Consultant
===> CPTE - Certified Penetration Testing Engineer
===> CSTA - Certified Security Testing Associate
===> eCPPT - eLearnSecurity Certified Professional Penetration Tester
===> ECSA - EC-Council Certified Security Analyst
===> GPEN - GIAC Certified Penetration Tester
===> OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional
=> Physical Security
=> Programming
=> Social Engineering
=> Web Applications
=> Wireless
===> CWNP Certs
===> GAWN - GIAC Assessing Wireless Networks
===> OSWP - Offensive Security Wireless Professional
=> Other
-----------------------------
Columns
-----------------------------
=> Editor-In-Chief
=> Andress
=> Gates
=> Haddix
=> Hadnagy
=> Heffner
=> Hoffman
=> Linn
=> RichM
=> Murray
=> J. Peltier
=> Weidman
=> Wilson
-----------------------------
Features
-----------------------------
=> /root
=> Book Reviews
=> Opinions
=> Skillz
===> Examples
===> May 06 - Star Hacks, Episode V: The Empire Hacks Back
===> July 06 - Hack Bill!
===> Sept 06 - Netcat in the Hat
===> Nov 06 - Hitch-Hackers Guide to the Galaxy
===> Dec 06 - A Christmas (Hacking) Story
===> Feb 07 - Charlottes Web Site
===> April 07 - Microsoft Office Space
===> June 07 - Serenity Hack
===> Oct 07 - Worst. Ethical. Hacker. Challenge. Ever.
===> Dec 07 - Frosty the Snow Crash
===> March 2008 - It Happened One Friday
===> Oct 2008 - Scooby Doo and the Crypto Caper
===> Dec 08 - Santa Claus Is Hacking to Town
===> Feb 2009 - Brady Bunch Boondoggle
===> July 2009 - Prison Break
===> October 2009 - SSHliders
===> December 2009 - Miracle on Thirty-Hack Street
===> December 2010 - The Nightmare Before Charlie Browns Christmas
-----------------------------
Resources
-----------------------------
=> Career Central
===> Looking For Work
===> Looking To Hire
=> Links to cool sites.
=> Mass Media
=> News from the Outside World
=> Tools
=> Tutorials
===> Tutorial Requests
Loading...
Exclusive Deal
SANSFIRE 2013
June 15 - 22
5% Off
w/ Code
:
EHN_5
SANS Deals 4 EH-Netters
5% OFF
Any
SANS Course
in Any Format!
Coupon Code:
EHN_5
Including
SANS Rocky Mountain 2013
&
SANS Boston 2013
Polls
Compared to this year, 2013 will be:
Great!
Better.
About the same.
Little worse.
FUBAR!
Recent Forum Topics
General Certification
: CPT Practical Submission
(0) by
z28power4u
OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional
: Class Scheduled 6/8 - Linux n00b
(5) by
MrTuxracer
Career Central
: Starter cert?
(0) by
Alert
Web Applications
: Nessus and Nikto
(4) by
Seen
Tutorials
: Need guidance
(7) by
impelse
Malware
: EICAR?
(2) by
SephStorm
Network Pen Testing
: Cracking salted MD5 hash
(4) by
n37sh@rk
CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker
: Passed my C|EH
(3) by
n37sh@rk
Mass Media
: EC-council hacked, irony at his best?
(0) by
j0rDy
Web Applications
: SQL Injection into an INSERT statement.
(6) by
eyenit0
Network Pen Testing
: Solution for sipXtapi INVITE Message CSeq Field Header Remote Overflow
(1) by
m0wgli
Web Applications
: dns
(2) by
H1t M0nk3y
Other
: BSides Boston
(0) by
3xban
Career Central
: InfoSec in Central, FL
(2) by
tturner
Web Applications
: Web vulnerability scanner
(4) by
H1t M0nk3y
EH-Net News Feeds
Latest Additions
Privacy Notice
for TDCC & All Properties
© 2013 The Ethical Hacker Network
Joomla!
is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL License.