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« Reply #105 on: September 07, 2012, 01:03:59 PM »

It's been said many times...  the big tool note on the exam is Metasploit...  You'll be given a limitation regarding its use.  (How many times and on which boxes)

Aside of that, you should know we can't really give you a direct "this is what you should know how to use on the test"

I'll say this, though.  Automation is your friend.  You'll find you can accomplish more, faster, if you have automated some tests (either prepared before or during the exam), that you can be doing multiple things, at the same time.  Just as in many real-world tests, you 'likely' won't have time to attack the exam boxes with a 'single-threaded' manner / mindset,

Make sure you're comfortable with BASH or some other scripting methods.
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« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2012, 11:13:34 AM »

DAY 28

Rooted 2 more servers. But the big news is, I got the network key for the IT Department !!! There it was... I grabbed it and inserted it !!!

SERVERS ROUTED : 21
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« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2012, 02:04:23 PM »

You're killing it man!! Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2012, 08:02:39 PM »

Got to say that this is one of the best threads about the OSCP on this forum. The blow by blow account is great!!!! As soon as I have finished moving house I plan on doing the PWB training!

Not sure I have the brains to do the cert but the training sounds great!
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« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2012, 09:27:21 PM »

I'm in the same boat money. I know it's going to hurt but I'm going to try anyway. I just signed up for the ninja sec course to try to learn as much as possible pre PWB.
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« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2012, 10:15:40 PM »

I try to read as much as I can to know about tunneling now.

The OSCP is extremely frustrating in not guiding you where you should learn what. They only show you what you 'can' do and then it's up to you.

Ok, thanks OSCP, you showed me this now, and I understand what you're doing, but I have to learn more about it. Where and what should I learn exactly ? Oh.. try harder. There you go. Well I got some reply to you: fuck you too.
 
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That sucks. Bigtime.

If I had knew, I would not started the lab before I would have read other books and done more experience. I would like to know if real newbies unexpierenced hackers really succeed in the test on the first try.

It's frustrating. While I am hacking myself true the lab succesfully, I'm frustrated in the pain it needs to figure things out myself without having some guidelines that are more than 'showing you what can be done'

Hacking is every time different, and how can you learn it by only seeing 1 example and then basically they tell you to go fuck yourself ?

As you can read from my post. I'm kind off sick of googling around and reading stupid blogs to try to learn something more in depth.

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« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2012, 10:24:21 PM »

Sorry you're hitting a rough spot man but you'be made a lot of progress and you'll make a lot more. You've hacked 21 more servers than me and most others here Smiley
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« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2012, 11:28:16 PM »

The course gives you the fundamentals. It's up to you to take it to the next level.

You're right, you can't learn or master anything from just one example. That's what the lab is for. Practice on it, make mistakes, learn from your mistakes. More importantly, expect to spend a lot of time doing research outside of the course material if you intend to hack into all the machines in the lab and pass the exam challenge.
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« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2012, 01:45:59 AM »

2.44 AM

Ok, got a server rooted in the IT DEPT using tunneling.

That was cool stuff.

Is it normal that my typing is slower now ?  Cheesy

But I'm still pissed on Offensive Security on letting me read 100's of blogs of folks that can count their pubertal hairs on 1 hand.
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« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2012, 01:48:19 AM »

That puts the servers rooted on 22
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« Reply #115 on: September 09, 2012, 08:04:17 AM »

Continued thanks for the updates as you go through the labs. Nice job working through the tunneling problems.

You should submit your posts to a sleep deprivation study forum too.
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« Reply #116 on: September 09, 2012, 08:52:10 AM »

2.44 AM

Ok, got a server rooted in the IT DEPT using tunneling.

That was cool stuff.

Is it normal that my typing is slower now ?  Cheesy

But I'm still pissed on Offensive Security on letting me read 100's of blogs of folks that can count their pubertal hairs on 1 hand.

Not sure what blogs you're reading. There are blogs geared towards penetration testing written by professionals. You can always just read RFCs and white papers.
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« Reply #117 on: September 09, 2012, 10:28:48 AM »

But I'm still pissed on Offensive Security on letting me read 100's of blogs of folks that can count their pubertal hairs on 1 hand.

WTH are you talking about???  

A.) Offensive Security 'letting' you read something, or 'making' you read something?  What you see now is what you're going to see in real life.  You'll often need some info on an exploit or topic and have to go find it.  I don't recall Offensive 'making' me look at anything, in particular.  Specifically if you're referring to blogs.  Blogs are others' writings, not Offensive's.

Maybe you're just venting about something, but your vent just made no sense, as written...
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« Reply #118 on: September 09, 2012, 11:51:57 AM »

You're killing me, dude. If you just want walk-throughs of how to exploit systems, hop on SecurityTube and watch the videos. There is no shortage of that type of instruction available, and that is not remotely the purpose of this course.

What do you think a real pen test is like? Do you expect to be able to walk into an organization and completely understand how everything is configured, how their custom in-house applications work, etc., right off the bat?

You're currently working on what, 40-50 systems over 90 days? Try hundreds or thousands of systems over five days. There's always going to be weird stuff you've never encountered before, and you need to be able to adapt and get acclimated to that environment quickly. That gets stressful while dealing with fast-approaching deadlines. You can't just stop when you're burned out and return to a troublesome system after taking a weekend off.

While some of the non-standard configurations in this course are frustrating, there's probably more of that in the real world. Try dealing with NAC or other controls that'll shutdown or temporarily disable your switchport if triggered, or users (surprisingly) taking their system to IS when an exploit unexpectedly triggers an AV alert. Try adding the complexity of things that break after being subjected to a basic nmap scan; I've yet to visit a client that provides "revert" functionality (unless you count rebooting the system after yelling at the tester).

This type of work is rarely easy, things rarely go as expected, and you're never going to master everything. You can view this as challenging or frustrating, and I think your perspective will really determine how far you'll go professionally.
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« Reply #119 on: September 09, 2012, 12:42:40 PM »

This course is meant to be difficult, and I think those of us who've earned our OSCPs like it that way. The difficulty and hands-on aspect is what separates it from other certifications. Dumbing the course down waters down the reputation of the certificate.

You need to be able to think quickly, out of the box, and pull rabbits out of your hat. The exam will test you on that. Think of it as a black box test on an organization. No hints, no information before you step in. That's part of the challenge. Everything you learn in the lab, and out of the lab, will come in handy.
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