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« on: August 14, 2012, 11:51:05 AM »

Hi All,

Does anyone know any good locks I am looking for a small bag lock but want it to be as secure as possible.

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 12:21:08 PM »

Whilst you may get a really secure lock, how secure is the bag otherwise? If you can break the zip or put a knife through the bag the lock isn't going to help much if someone really wants to get in the bag.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 01:01:55 PM »

kinda what m0wgli said. if you want to really secure stuff, use a hard case, and get like an abus padlock or something (be prepared to pay).
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 03:20:56 PM »

Also really secure looking bag and lock could equal really nice things inside, take the bag and worry about getting in when you are in a safe place.  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 04:08:58 AM »

Thanks for the info guys Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 07:05:25 PM »

kinda what m0wgli said. if you want to really secure stuff, use a hard case, and get like an abus padlock or something (be prepared to pay).

Down side to ABUS, pain to open without the key, unless you have bolt cutters. Friend used 2 going to defcon, and they were cut off by the TSA. At least they left the guns in the case alone.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 07:54:57 PM »

kinda what m0wgli said. if you want to really secure stuff, use a hard case, and get like an abus padlock or something (be prepared to pay).

Down side to ABUS, pain to open without the key, unless you have bolt cutters. Friend used 2 going to defcon, and they were cut off by the TSA. At least they left the guns in the case alone.

TSA. *grumble*
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 08:21:17 PM »

Heh it takes me roughly 1 minute or less to open the very small ABUS padlocks with lockpicking, and 2-5 minutes for the "Master" (brand) padlocks that costs around 20$

Those locks are generally not going to keep you secure, not even those that are "hardened" and fire proof, because most of them are barely protected against lockpicking.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 09:04:47 PM »

Keeps honest men honest.  Just like the laptop security cables that you can just rip out of the laptop.  Unless it is secured to the bored so it renders the laptop useless if you brute force it Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 09:51:52 PM »

Doh, down side to playing with as many locks as I do. I said ABUS, was thinking Abloy. They were $80.00 abloy locks that got cut off. anyway if you get the right ABUS, they'll be disk locks too. HArder to open.

AS for the master locks, I think they're starting to make them better.. Locks I bought 2 years ago, I can get in, in under 10 seconds. Stuff I bought last year, takes me about 1 minute. Locks I bought for Maker Faire Detroit's Lock Pick Village this year, 3 to 5 minutes each.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 10:05:28 PM »

Doh, down side to playing with as many locks as I do. I said ABUS, was thinking Abloy. They were $80.00 abloy locks that got cut off. anyway if you get the right ABUS, they'll be disk locks too. HArder to open.

AS for the master locks, I think they're starting to make them better.. Locks I bought 2 years ago, I can get in, in under 10 seconds. Stuff I bought last year, takes me about 1 minute. Locks I bought for Maker Faire Detroit's Lock Pick Village this year, 3 to 5 minutes each.

Funny, I meant Abloy as well.  Padlocks... they're my kryptonite.  For some reason, I think the spring just screws with my tension technique too much. I can only pick through about a third of my padlock collection. *pout*
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2012, 03:26:25 AM »

So we saying ABUS are the best lock to get but they come at a price
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2012, 12:30:58 AM »

So we saying ABUS are the best lock to get but they come at a price

No Abloy. you can get them from security snobs, they can even set up master key systems for you. so you can have one key that opens all your locks, and sub keys that only open some sets.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 11:28:05 AM »

Just a note if you are traveling by air in the USA the TSA only allows you to use certain approved locks;

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/locks.shtm
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 04:25:49 PM »

Just a note if you are traveling by air in the USA the TSA only allows you to use certain approved locks;

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/locks.shtm

After the post by chrisj about his friend having his padlocks cut by the TSA, my initial thought was WTF. However, some quick research into the TSA revealed that this is common practice.

I also came across the information about approved locks you posted. Whilst looking into this further, I was surprised about the number of people complaining about using TSA approved locks and still having them cut.
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