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Ruby and Python

« on: December 10, 2011, 08:27:24 AM »

I am looking for good beginning books for both Python and Ruby, I have done research and found these two:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159059519X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596516177/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Has anyone read these? If so Are they good? If these are not good what would you suggest are the best books to learn from?


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 11:46:21 AM »

I heard a lot of good things about these:

http://learnpythonthehardway.org/
and
http://ruby.learncodethehardway.org/

I bought both of them ($2.99 for the PDFs), but have not gone through them, yet.


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 01:39:50 PM »

The python book was missing alot of stuff that I was looking for.


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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 05:34:28 PM »

Personally, I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly programming books. They're all about syntax, with no useful examples. I haven't read the Ruby book, but I went through the Python book, and although I "understood" everything, I found it somewhat hard to start my first program. A syntax book would be useful if I was porting something from one language to another, but if I'm trying to learn and understand a new language, I like more examples.

But honestly, everyone's different. In my experience, as far as programming books go, the style/approach of the book is just as important as the material. If you can learn Python and Ruby just by looking at syntax, then maybe those books will work for you.

You might want to check your library and see what kind of books they have. Even if you can't find anything superb, it might help you realize what style of book would work best for you before you shell out 25-35 bucks for something that got good reviews on Amazon.


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 05:39:42 PM »

Interesting, what books would you suggest then?


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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 05:44:02 PM »

I don't know, I haven't found any books on scripting languages I like yet!


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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 07:17:15 PM »

This is the book I swear by for Ruby. It is the primary language I use as it is very easy to learn and lauds itself as "natural".

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Ruby-1-9-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/1934356085/ref=pd_sim_b_6


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 07:29:52 PM »

personally, I haven't found any really awesome book regarding 'Python'

This is a nice place to start with,
https://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-class/

Currently I am reading this book,
http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106
it's pretty good but didn't cover any basics.

After that I want to finish:
http://www.amazon.com/Foundations-Python-Network-Programming-Goerzen/dp/1590593715


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2011, 01:05:36 PM »

Quote from: l33t5h@rk on December 10, 2011, 07:17:15 PM

and it flows nice?


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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2011, 01:07:11 PM »

Quote from: hurtl0cker on December 10, 2011, 07:29:52 PM

Thanks have looked into the first one before. I will check out the rest thanks again.


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 03:06:24 PM »

Quote from: El33tsamurai on December 11, 2011, 01:05:36 PM

Quote from: l33t5h@rk on December 10, 2011, 07:17:15 PM

and it flows nice?

I think so. It assumes some basic programming (loops, conditionals, etc) but gives you the basic bare bone examples of them all as it goes into the language. If you did this along w/ the Coding for Penetration Testers hand in hand, I think it would be a good confluence.


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2011, 03:11:46 PM »

Thanks


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 05:08:23 AM »

I have ordered this one to start with as i thought even if you do have a good understanding of programming there is no harm in going back to basics.

I liked the fact that it also teaches you by programming games.

http://www.amazon.com/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323860755&sr=8-1


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 12:12:19 AM »

Quote from: l33t5h@rk on December 10, 2011, 07:17:15 PM

I just ordered this book l33t5h@rk, hope it's good!


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Re: Ruby and Python

« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 08:41:12 AM »

l33t5h@rk I just wanted to say thanks for the book recommendation. I'm about 100 pages into it, and it's pretty good. I can still write a C++ or Java program faster than I can script, but I'm learning.


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