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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2011, 09:37:10 PM »

Remember everybody has their followers, so leave them defend themselvs
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2011, 09:38:50 PM »

I want to let everyone in the eh-net community know that we have posted publicly our offer to peter. Can you please take a look and give feedback?

http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/corelan-public-apology/

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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2011, 09:55:16 PM »

That's a good progress, my question is why to wait until you get bad publicity? Internet is powerfull to create that publicity. Lesson: Fix as soon as possible, otherwyse who know!
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2011, 10:20:53 PM »

Hey, cool, another interested individual that registered today just so they could make this post.  Seems to be a trend on this subject. 

Thanks for your sharp eye here. Can we get IPs of these guys? Would be quite interesting to out them publicly, dont you think?

No, I don't think so. I think that would be childish and un-ethical. Sure, they might be coming off a little like jerks, but they are raising some questions. Voicing things they don't understand. Trying to create discourse.

Really, I think if you want to make impact beyond what you've done here... Take it up with attrition.org. Find and reply to the Exotic Liability tweet on twitter. Try to get a larger conversation going, within what you're allowed to say by your lawyers.

But asking for IP addresses to "out" people, to me sounds like a thuggish move. A "Quiet your detractors and accusers through fear" move.

I can understand the stress of going through this, you were betrayed but because you're the big name, everyone is firing at you. However, wanting to publicly out people, in my eyes hurts your stance more then helps it. Over all I'm still remaining neutral. I'd like to see you guys get it worked out.

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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2011, 10:36:31 PM »

Free Speech Tenet - More is always better than less.

And to Quote Mr. Gump,"And that's all I have to say about that."

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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2011, 07:33:18 AM »

Thanks for your sharp eye here. Can we get IPs of these guys? Would be quite interesting to out them publicly, dont you think?

The proverbial 'pot calling the kettle black'...

Get the ip's of these guys, and out them publicly???  What is this?  World versus Anonymous???  C'mon now.

I'm with chrisj.  I prefer to remain out of the middle.  Suffice to say, I don't think most folks here are going to be swayed by rants and banter, because each side wants the sympathy card.

Let's just say this- the issue has been brought to everyone's attention.  There are recognized legal issues, and both sides ackowledge that.  Folks have weighed in.  There's no point in bickering back and forth, here, as EH is neutral ground.  How about Infosec Institute and Peter now be allowed to settle the matter, then someone can let us know the outcome?

Please...
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2011, 07:54:49 AM »

infoseci,
   My prior comment wasn't meant to suggest that we go on a snipe hunt, just pointing out to folks on both sides of the issue that it is fairly easy to spot someone that is coming on to the forum for the sole reason of trying to influence this conversation.  I think some of the prior posts have accurately reflect the mood regarding the idea of exposing someone, though.
   As for your latest blog posting, my personal opinion is that it appears that both sides are sorting through this and the process should run its course.  In general many folks in the community were upset because we saw no movement at all.  That seems to have been fixed.  However, folks need to calm down a bit at this point.  You can't expect this flip to the other extreme so that you can watch every step.  A lot of this will be confidential (I'm sure lawyers from both sides are having their say about what goes public and what doesn't) and we have no right to expect to be cc'ed on every email.  Everyone go have a frosty adult beverage of your choice and chill out for a bit.
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2011, 09:09:46 AM »

Another thing to think about for the future, hopefully this type of situation doesn't happen again... but if it does, nip it in the bud quickly, quietly and fairly.  Try to keep it from getting this far for public review.  Also realize that this will hurt business for a while.  InfoSecI will be under the microscope for anything that is offered from here on in as well as past offerings.  There are plenty of other training providers out there and those of us serious about Info Sec training will seek them out.  It doesn't come down to cost but quality and if you can offer top quality at a reasonable cost, well that is a huge plus.

Both parties at this time should just a sit down try to agree to keep this between the parties and refrain from additional posts online until a reasonable agreement can be made. 
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2011, 09:18:01 AM »

Sorry if being new here means the obvious facts I point out aren't considered.  I thought this was a good place to contribute to the conversation since I've seen so many things being said here which contradict the published facts.  So, I'll ask again, two years? 
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2011, 09:34:12 AM »

conch,
   Being new has nothing to do with the validity of your points.  You just happened to match the profile of a common tactic on a variety of forums.  When one of the interested parties wants to influence the conversation they create a new profile for the sake of posting comments.  It has become so common that it is assumed to be the case until shown otherwise.  If you're a new participant on EH.net and are in for the long hall then welcome.  If not, well, so be it.
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2011, 10:38:06 AM »

Sorry if being new here means the obvious facts I point out aren't considered.

Just because we don't say your name, doesn't mean you didn't have an impact. But I know how nice it is to have your name said and know you make an impact. I have an ego too. Smiley

Hope to see you in some other threads. Welcome to the board.
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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2011, 08:55:38 AM »

Infosec Institute and Corelan have settled, the school has posted this notice http://www.infosecinstitute.com/corelan-isi-resolved/
and Corelan has posted this one
https://www.corelan.be/index.php/2011/11/18/copyright-dispute-resolved/

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« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2011, 09:37:36 AM »

This is good
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« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2011, 03:14:28 PM »

Attrition.org worked with both parties trying to get to the truth and a settlement, here's their report:
http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/infosec_institute/
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« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2011, 03:35:44 PM »

See what humans can do when they work together and put their minds to it?  Grin
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