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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2011, 12:20:39 PM »

No tech hacking is really good book and a scary one when you see what pretty much anyone can do. If you want learn locking picking you can start off buy buying cheap lock and trying pick that. you can also get testing rigs I remember seeing somewhere.

the toool website had testing rigs, I usually build my own for about half the cost. get a Kwickset mortise deadbolt (double packs are great), and re-pin it yourself not that hard. I've done it for presentations and Bsides Detroit's Lockpick village.

I've gotten into "secure" areas in old jobs by either going over the wall in the drop down celling (running cable to locked offices), or under the floor (data center cages when I forgot the key).
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2011, 12:24:51 PM »

I know several people have said cut-a-ways. Personally I don't like those. They teach a bad habit from the start. Same with clear locks. It gets you too used to watching what is going on, and you don't learn to feel properly. So you'll rock the cut-a-ways, but a non-cutaway will give you all kinds of trouble.

I also agree with Rance on the vice, or better yet, make a mount, like a door. I can rock a lock I hold in my hand, but mounted properly gives me trouble. Even if it is a lock i know I can pick if in my hand.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2011, 09:38:29 PM »

Would I just get a "lock picking" kit? or is there a special name for it?
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2011, 09:49:58 PM »

rance,

nice post! and damn those are a lot of locks haha 

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2011, 10:21:36 PM »

Would I just get a "lock picking" kit? or is there a special name for it?

There are a lot of tools, the most common being the lock pick, of which there are many and the tension rod, also several to choose from.  The next most common and recent is the bump key and hammer, then there's jigglers and shims and tubular picks.

Something good to start with would be this: http://www.lockpicks.com/brockhage-lock-pick-set-b230.aspx

(i'd also get one of these for starters: http://www.lockpicks.com/longtwistwrench.aspx)

I've got this kit: http://toool.us/equipment.html The only benefit of that over the other one above is that is has a mix of thick and thin picks, and it has the twist tension rod.  But I don't know if that justifies the cost difference.  That site has a lot of cool stuff, look around.  That vice I mentioned earlier is here: http://www.lockpickersmall.com/universal-practice-lock-stand.html

Now, I'd be remiss if I didn't share the lockpicking rules.

1. Do not pick locks which you do not own.

2. Do not pick locks which you rely on.

That's it.  And I can personally attest to rule number two.   Grin
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 01:19:56 AM »

Thanks for the link and Ill definitely keep those 2 rules in mind lol
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 03:41:49 AM »

I think my kit cost me about £40 and it has all sorts in I don't do much lock picking but I used to practice on a lock I purchased for about £7 really interesting when you take it apart too.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 09:29:04 AM »

In case anybody who's interested in lockpicking has missed it, Schuyler Towne put together a great series of videos to get people started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVSL0liiWoc

That's a link to the first vid in the 24-part series.  chrisj mentioned earlier that it's not very hard to re-pin a lock.  I was nervous about it for awhile thinking I'd screw the lock, but Schuyler added two vids in this series about it: one vid on taking a lock apart, another putting it back together.  Very easy to follow and you probably have most everything you need to do it just laying around the house.

The videos are short and to the point...no long, drawn-out boring videos there.  I highly recommend this series to anybody who's just getting started and hasn't gotten around to buying Deviant Ollam's book yet Smiley
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