No body says bad things about their own house, they will never say something bad about themselves, we need feedback from the student perspective

Yeah, that's the first thing that came to mind, about the company just wanting to make their own course sound more important and sought after than the CEH.  It was odd though that she told me this CPTE trainer was the first person to market the CEH certification years ago and one of the first CEH trainers but now he's telling people that the CPTE is/will be better on the resume and more up to date/relevant content which you can actually practice with in class.

I'm just searching now for CPTE vs CEH comparisons.  My employer (gov't) is very stingy when it comes to training $$ so it would be a miracle if they pay for even 1 course.  Just trying to make sure I push for the right course to take.  I'm wanting the course for my resume as well as for my own personal learning/grow my skills/knowledge.

I'll take a look at OSCP as well but it talks about having to craft custom tailored exploits among other things to pass the practical exam and I know very little programming, let alone how to create a custom exploit.

CEH is great for HR only.  When I do technical interviews, I always ask CEH certified folks how they feel CEH has prepared them to work in security.  Those with other certs (who are on the level) usually tell me that it was a cake walk compared to cert X (besides say A+).  Those who only have the CEH regularly tell me how difficult it is and how they are totally prepared to audit, hack, or <insert random security buzzword here> my networks.  These people seriously oversell the certification.  Bottom line, book knowledge doesn't get you anything in security unless you can do it and CEH doesn't measure that.

I agree that OSCP/OSCE is the way to go.  I took the OSCE course and couldn't be happier.  I am yet to sit for the certification due to an insanely busy year, but will certainly hire those that have it over those that have CEH.

Does anyone know how they are "hands on"? Is there some sort of lab that is mixed in the test?

How many of you have actually took a class with mile2?

Haven't taken the class yet, I'm hoping to win this month's contest and see if they will do a ground course.

From what I have seen, their videos are detailed enough that you can certainly find the (very relevant) tools and use them. If im not mistaken, I remember the instructor doing a demo of (I cant remember the name, it was a data aggregation reconnaissance tool.)

BTW, Mile2 was indeed one of the first ATC's for EC-Council. If i'm not mistaken, Wayne Burke was one of their instructors. Indeed, I think M2 was involved in a lawsuit with ECC, but they settled.

@YuckTheFankees - this is true...

I think we all have cheap employers lol 12 prizes is a lot of stuff to go around.