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« on: October 06, 2011, 08:59:11 PM »

I work for a large company with a pretty direct offshoring initiative. I'm sure everyone is familiar with the strategy and may have seen co-workers leave due to this. I'm personally of the opinion that being in the information security field provides the best form of job security (obvious but no pun intended). I'm curious how others in similar positions feel about their futures and what is currently being done in other organizations in terms of what IT functions are being shipped to other destinations.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 07:51:27 AM »

I don't think any industry is immuned to the changes in the economy.  Right now InfoSec is big due to many factors related to the high profile breaches that have occured.  Not to mention the the increase in the hactivism movement, both the passive and extremists sides (Lulzsec).  So we can unfortunately, thank them for their work since it has now given us a plenty of work.  The big companies are shelling out dollars in hopes to make these problems go away but in reality, it will require them to change their mindset on the problem. 

The breaches that occur now that have given way to the newly hated acronym of APT are a new breed of attack.  The guys or gals on the other side of the wire are in this for one thing, money!  They most likely have nothing against the company but either a criminal organization, terrorist group or nation state has provided them with resources to get certain data and do it without detection.  They are highly intelligent and are being paid to bypass security.  They write their own code, use phishing attacks and utilize much patience.  They may wait for 6-12 months before actually taking anything.  They will drop backdoors that will go undetected because the company is still using definition based detection methods.  How do you detect what you don't know? 

The box with the blinky lights will not protect us any longer.  So upper management needs to change their mentality when fighting these threats.  Before they buy more software or hardware to throw at this threat, they need to shore up their current infrastructure.  Segment the big LANs, utilize ACLs on the switches, put your servers on a vLAN that only allows the essential services through to get work done.  Take your most critical data and place it in a tightly secured environment accessible through Citrix but no other way. 

Oh I am digressing a bit, what I am trying to say, eventually the big companies will do one of two things...  They will listen to us and do as we say and implement these new counter measures.  They will clean up the environment to eliminate any foreign presence and they will go on in business.  Or, they will say the cost is too high to proceed, they will not listen to us and go on deleted the malware and blocking websites and eventually that REALLY critical data will go out the door and into someone elses hands.  It will be used maybe by a competitor to help them obtain contracts, or maybe by a terrorist group to use against our own military.  Either way, that will cost the company greatly and possibly force them to close.

So when all these big companies close, there may be a surplus of InfoSec types looking for work.  The small/medium businesses and non-profits will become our bread and butter I think.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 10:43:49 PM »

Thanks for the reply, and of course, digress away.

I'm with you on APT, isn't it always whether you got in or not? I thought that was kind of the point.

I do wonder if things are just going to keep collapsing and like you said force us all into contract work. A colleague of mine says the future of IT in the USA is in project management or security, because those are the only two that can't be sent overseas. I am not sure I agree with that as it's obviously a very general statement but I do feel that security, one way or the other, is a safe bet for employment.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 12:42:59 AM »

This is a great post. I'm still in college but my goal is to one day be a information assurance engineer. Just like every other college kid, I'm a little scared about not finding a job due to many applicants or just having the number of jobs go down.

How do you think security will change in the next 5-10 years?
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 09:20:34 AM »

I think the focus on big companies will shift.  Be prepared to maybe not make quite as much but I think the SMB market will start to flourish and hopefully they will take security more serious than the big guys.  Their networks aren't as complex so it will cost them less to straighten things up accordingly.  Regular audits will probably be mandatory so bone up on your PCI/HIPAA knowledge.  In reality, the compliance industries really need to come up with one solid standard since they all require almost the same exact controls.  The changes are needed though to actually force proper configurations to be in place. 

Be prepared to know how to implement better network segmentation controls, App Whitelisting, Web Filtering controls.  Whitelisting will be the key to most of our current problems.  Organizations must learn to adequately document the network and know EVERYTHING that is running on it.  So be prepared to watch for that proper network documentation is present.  Get familiar with Cloud and Web App security as well.  Many companies that are trying to cut down on hardware costs may move completely into hosted services models.  Applications will then be migrated to either a Citrix style environment or delivered straight from a hosted Web application.

The trend for this has begun, as more controls are implemented, I think more will migrate to the managed/hosted services models.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 11:34:50 AM »

YtF - the generation of college students graduating now and the next 10 years are to me the ones in the most economic peril. Jobs are slowly disappearing so if security is where you would like to go I would learn (and know cold) as much about every aspect of security as possible, from technical offerings such as metasploit to legal and privacy matters such as regulations of PCI-DSS, etc. It's definitely a broad field yet as I witnessed at BASC this weekend, still somehow is in fledgling stages. At least in terms of recognition.
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