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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 06:08:03 PM »

Hello E-H!

Just wanted to keep everyone up-to-date with my progress! I officially was enrolled into OSWP on the 18th, and went through the course within a couple of days. The course isn't nearly as lengthy as PWB. A couple days later I actually sent in challenge request date which happened to be today and I already took my OSWP certification exam. I was able to successfully obtain all the keys and have sent in my results, just awaiting official decision right now.

Had a blast in the class! My aunt loaned me her router, I've had an Alfa card for a couple years now. I had always used point-n-click tools to break into my AP, but now can successfully say I've dabbled in the command-line arts for getting my wifu on. I felt the class really gave a good introduction to the aircrack-ng suite and I may possibly leave a review of it here shortly. Some may think between the amount of time I enrolled versus when I scheduled my exam was pretty quick (less than 1 week of being enrolled in the course), but I actually dedicated a lot of time breaking into my router with various configurations, and wrote down well over 5 pages of notes! It's tons of practice, practice, practice! I definitely picked up on a good amount it makes me wonder how this course stacks up against SANS GAWN course.

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Did you find the material to be dated?
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2011, 06:38:32 PM »

If you get a chance, grab Hacking Exposed: Wireless. I like that book, that's awesome, I started reading it after the OSWP. I was learning more, but had to stop (work / life came in to play). I want to get back to it.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 06:40:36 PM »

@Dark_Knight - I'd say it's relevant, the attacks can be easily applied and work successfully. I notice a lot of the networks around me are WPA/WPA2. I think a couple years ago, WEP was more prevalent. They definitely need to update the course. I recall the v1 course was published in 2007, I was expecting to get this version when I signed up but the Lab Guide said it was from 2009 and the course was currently at version 2. A few new attacks have been added to aircrack-ng since then that weren't included in the course because they must not of been around at the time. More tools could've been introduced, but if it was based around the aircrack-ng suite I think they did a good job introducing it. The WPA section was pretty minimal, but it explained what you needed to know in order to crack WPA.

The course videos were sufficient enough to be able to go through and be able to pass the exam with what you've taken out of them.

@chrisj - Definitely have to look into that.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2011, 07:56:50 PM »

If you get a chance, grab Hacking Exposed: Wireless. I like that book, that's awesome, I started reading it after the OSWP. I was learning more, but had to stop (work / life came in to play). I want to get back to it.

I need to finish reading that book. But the Metasploit Penetration Guide currently has my attention Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 01:56:31 PM »

Did you find the material to be dated?

I heard somebody mention the course being outdated in another thread here awhile back too.  I was curious to how outdated it was...

@Dark_Knight - I'd say it's relevant, the attacks can be easily applied and work successfully. I notice a lot of the networks around me are WPA/WPA2. I think a couple years ago, WEP was more prevalent. They definitely need to update the course. I recall the v1 course was published in 2007, I was expecting to get this version when I signed up but the Lab Guide said it was from 2009 and the course was currently at version 2. A few new attacks have been added to aircrack-ng since then that weren't included in the course because they must not of been around at the time. More tools could've been introduced, but if it was based around the aircrack-ng suite I think they did a good job introducing it. The WPA section was pretty minimal, but it explained what you needed to know in order to crack WPA.

Thanks for explaining that, xXxKrisxXx.  This is helpful as I've been considering this course for some time now.  Something I noticed: you said you were expecting v1, but the lab guide said v2.  The Offensive Security website currently says v3...?

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After registering for the course, you’ll be able to download all your course materials, including the entire Offensive Security WiFU v.3.0 course video series in SWF format. These videos can be played on any modern computer with speakers.
Source: Source: http://www.offensive-security.com/online-information-security-training/backtrack-wifu/

I wonder if you got an old lab guide or if the website has a typo.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 02:41:27 PM »

@Lorddicranius - That's a good observation. I just re-checked my lab guide and it says v2. I'm pretty sure I have v2 of the course, it's utilizing BackTrack 3, and I think the v1 of the course was using BackTrack 1 or 2. If WiFu v3.0 came out, I'd imagine the material would be on BT4 or even BT5. I'm going to contact them right now and ask!

P.s - Received a quick response from the challenges department regarding my OSWP exam with my official results and I past! (wooh!)

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2011, 02:51:04 PM »

Congrass in the past!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2011, 04:54:10 PM »

@Lorddicranius - That's a good observation. I just re-checked my lab guide and it says v2. I'm pretty sure I have v2 of the course, it's utilizing BackTrack 3, and I think the v1 of the course was using BackTrack 1 or 2. If WiFu v3.0 came out, I'd imagine the material would be on BT4 or even BT5. I'm going to contact them right now and ask!

P.s - Received a quick response from the challenges department regarding my OSWP exam with my official results and I past! (wooh!)

Kris

Let us know what they say about the versions.  As I said, I've been considering the BackTrack Wifu course, but also heard it was outdated.  And if it's mostly based on WEP with a sprinkle of WPA, I might consider waiting until it's updated again.  On one hand, the course was written by the guy who wrote the aircrack-ng suite, so that's awesome.  But at the same time, if it's outdated...hmm.  Also wondering how it compares to Vivek's Wireless LAN Security megaprimer...

And gratz on passing! Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2011, 05:38:26 PM »

Thanks on the grats guys! I received an e-mail just now with some clarification, they stated the following:

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Current version of the WiFu course is 2.0.

Version 3.0 is planned to be released in the next few months.
As always, all our students who have purchase the current version, will be able to upgrade their course materials to the new version (once available). The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one.

Just wanted to keep everyone up-to-date. When this updates in a couple months, I bet it's going to be even better and modern. Vivek's WLan Security Primer is superb material. I've watched a couple videos from the series.

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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2011, 08:01:52 PM »

Thanks on the grats guys! I received an e-mail just now with some clarification, they stated the following:

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Current version of the WiFu course is 2.0.

Version 3.0 is planned to be released in the next few months.
As always, all our students who have purchase the current version, will be able to upgrade their course materials to the new version (once available). The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one.

Just wanted to keep everyone up-to-date. When this updates in a couple months, I bet it's going to be even better and modern. Vivek's WLan Security Primer is superb material. I've watched a couple videos from the series.

Kris

WOOTTTT!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2011, 11:26:47 PM »

Those are watching very close what were are saying here.
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2011, 12:08:26 AM »

Thanks on the grats guys! I received an e-mail just now with some clarification, they stated the following:

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Current version of the WiFu course is 2.0.

Version 3.0 is planned to be released in the next few months.
As always, all our students who have purchase the current version, will be able to upgrade their course materials to the new version (once available). The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one.

Just wanted to keep everyone up-to-date. When this updates in a couple months, I bet it's going to be even better and modern. Vivek's WLan Security Primer is superb material. I've watched a couple videos from the series.

Kris

Awesome reply, looking forward to the v3 updates!
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2011, 09:36:53 AM »

Congratz xXxKrisxXx!!!
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2011, 11:35:04 AM »

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Version 3.0 is planned to be released in the next few months.
As always, all our students who have purchase the current version, will be able to upgrade their course materials to the new version (once available). The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one.

Did you guys notice that said:  The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one

Come on, that's mean price increase....... Undecided
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2011, 12:32:17 PM »

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Current version of the WiFu course is 2.0.

Version 3.0 is planned to be released in the next few months.
As always, all our students who have purchase the current version, will be able to upgrade their course materials to the new version (once available). The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one.

Did you guys notice that said:  The fee will be the difference between the current fee and the new one

Come on, that's mean price increase....... Undecided

Yeah, saw that.  Curious as to how much the price increase will be.  Anybody know if there was a price increase from v1 to v2?
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