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« on: May 20, 2011, 01:30:14 PM »

So kind of a newbie on here and with networking in general.  What I am looking to do is setup a completly different network made up of my spare laptop running Linux and a spare desktop I have running windows on a seperate network so the tools that I learn I can practice on this different network. 

So I think the biggest part of this process is setting up the different subnet so I can use the same Linksys/IP address.  I don't know how to do this.  My router is about a yr old so I think it should be able to do this. 

I'm not asking for anyone to hold my hand and walk me through this but steer me in the right direction.  Any links on here or somewhere else.

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 01:49:57 PM »

I don't believe the Linksys products allow you to create more than one subnet.  But flashing the unit with DD-WRT (depends on the Linksys model) and configuring VLANs might give you the setup you're looking for.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 03:20:23 PM »

If it's only two machines, can't you just directly connect them? Or do you need other (Internet) access?
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 07:12:57 PM »

Don't know, that's why I am asking.  I only need internet access for my desktop and wife's lap top.  The other 2 computers that I want to hook into a network can be standalone units and not connected to the internet.  Don't really care.  I assume there are plenty of tools that I can learn that I don't need access to the internet for them to run.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 07:31:14 AM »

Well if you've got Internet access on another system, you can always download what you need there and move it over via usb drive or something. Makes it sort of a hassle, but it would work.

As mentioned above, I don't think your Linksys, as it comes from the store, would be able to handle this. What model and version do you have?

Have a look at the DD-WRT supported devices here: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices#Cisco

Or OpenWRT: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start#linksys

There's also Tomato: http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato

As far as I know, DD-WRT is still the leader and should be able to do what you're looking for: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VLAN_Detached_Networks_%28Separate_Networks_With_Internet%29
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 03:19:01 PM »

If you are pretty new to security too maybe vmware might be better to start off with. This way if you make mistakes you can take snap shots or reset the vm very quickly where if you mess up a live box it takes long to reinstall and re-config it all.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2011, 09:50:51 PM »

I 2nd vmware.  I typically run my testing lab from my main system since it has all the juice.  I also run a Hyper-V environment on my Win2K8 box.  VMware typically gives you the option to run the systems in their own standalone network, bridged or straight through.  VMware workstation will run you about 190 (ouch thought it was cheaper) bucks.  If you want something for free you can run with Virtual Box, it also allows for snapshots. 

The beauty of running these labs in VMs is certainly the snapshotting ability but also you don't need any additional monitors or keyboards to build them. 

But to answer your initial question, if you don't need internet and you just want to use your Linksys as a switch for them.  You don't need anything fancy.  Just configure them with their own network range using static IPs.  For instance if your Linksys network is 192.168.0.0/24  set your lab up to use 172.16.1.0/24.  you can configure a gateway but that won't really matter.  If traffic is only going between hosts on the 172.16.1.0/24 network, they won't even go to the linksys gateway.

If you did need your linksys to route traffic from those lab systems, well you would need to flash it with DD-WRT or Tomato.  Tomato allows you to specific additional routes for internal hosts.

Hope this helps.
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