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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 11:36:50 PM »



Free speech is free speech don, even if it is something people might not agree on. From one side you can be happy because it does not open the door for trails against people that criticize certain subject like is happening in some parts of Europe.


H4TT1fn4TT , I agree to a point. Perhaps the Supreme Court wasn't the best avenue nor is censorship the best approach. However, there should be an expectation for reason.

For example, I can drop the F* bomb all day long at my son's little league game, but is it reasonable? I agree with you, I don't support this church and I think they should be allowed to protest whatever they wish, but it should be exercised in legal and reasonable boundaries. This conversation is moving a bit out of the cyber realm and the intent of this post. I think we can all agree that anonymous' actions were un-ethical, even if we were silently cheering in the back of our minds.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2011, 07:25:11 AM »

Freedom of speech and Freedom of information are America's greatest foundations.  It allows us to learn and be whatever we'd like.  It is because of these great soldiers that have lost their lives defending those principles that they are able to protest in the first place.  What Anonymous is doing is illegal, although i think I can manage to turn a blind eye.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2011, 09:47:22 AM »

No one has mentioned the live hack yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJwSjor4hM
It's toward the end.

Anyway, Anonymous has said they have not been attacking their site as they believe in free speech. Free speech is like the old bible verse "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them". The true test of free speech is allowing and defending speech you find repugnant. I doubt whether this Jester guy is actually part of Anonymous. He seems like someone out to make a name for himself in public instead of being recognized by his peers as an expert. It is also apparent that it was the taunting by Westboro that caused the live hack. They have followed the same route as HBGary or as Stephen Colbert put it "Now to put that in hacker terms, Anonymous is a hornet's nest and Barr said 'I'm going to stick my p***s in that thing".
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 03:53:58 AM »

Hi,

I am not the person who relates - Ethical Hacking & Activism. It's like relating Military Training & Terrorist.

Free speech eh? Heard of the "don't taze me bro" video. Clearly signifies that free speech can not be practiced unless you have a political backup or you are enough popular in the media. I mean there are tons of examples. Not just one.

Protests, rallies are all works of extremists. Extremists want to oppose. Hell if you don't like something then why don't keep the idea to yourself. Why oppose in the first place. But then you are an extremist.

If you don't like gay people stay out of it. I don't like cats. I wouldn't go killing all the cats in the hood? Would I?

Just a thought.

Cheers!
P.S. Don - The forum font is really small. Do we not have any other themes for this board. (Sorry I am new, 0 intentions to offend).
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2011, 05:33:33 AM »

Cheers!
P.S. Don - The forum font is really small. Do we not have any other themes for this board. (Sorry I am new, 0 intentions to offend).

Wont ctrl++ (ctrl and +) on most of the browsers do the trick?
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2011, 11:16:08 AM »

things get tricky, activist warfare  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2011, 10:19:05 AM »

I agree with much that was said here. What the person or group is doing is illegal and not what we should stand for. Remember the only difference between hacker and ethical hacker is the word "permission". They do not have it.

One area of disagreement that I have is to use the term activist for the target group. A group filled with hate and bile like they are, is not what activism is all about. They are simply pushing their own twisted ideas and not trying to improve anything. I personally am glad to see anything that hinders this 'churche's' ability to spread its message of hatred.
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