On those points we agree, and I provided similar feedback on my forms after the class, to both the training partner I sat from, and EC-Council.  I'll note some of those things in my review, as well, next week, here on EH-net.

Honestly, I find that discouraging. Previous versions seemed to overemphasize tools, and this version does that to an even greater extent?

I'd prefer them to dramatically lessened the quantity of tools and focus on the underlying concepts. I think that would create much more genuinely skilled professionals compared to certifying individuals based on a cursory knowledge of a multitude of tools.


Wow. That's on par with Michael Jordan making a lay-up on a practice court. With the rim at 6'. Congrats!


This is another issue (maybe I'm reading too much into this specific situation, but I know it exists in reality). It seems that the knowledge, skill, and experience of the instructors varies greatly. I know there are some that completely destroy me (to the point where I probably couldn't even make eye contact with them), but at the other extreme, there are others that appear to be completely unqualified. Personally, I've heard of instructor complaints for years. I'd be extremely hesitant to sign up for a course where the actual value is such a crap shoot. Do you have any insight into how they oversee the uniformity of how the course is actually delivered?

Congrats, hayabusa.

Same as what SephStorm said above. I'm not sure what the requirements are exactly to become a 'Master Trainer' but if you look at the people who hold that title you can clearly see that the group knows what they're doing.

EC-Council has a "trainers" portal just as they do for certified members. Here the trainers can collaborate, downloading training materials, etc. As I understand it, EC-Council provides the guidelines for the training on what's to be covered - typically whatever is in the instructor slides. It's the good trainers that know what to include from this and what to skip, and what other information they can provide to add value.

As a side-note to anyone considering training, you should always check to see who your instructor is going to be ahead of time and ask the training center for some sort of bio on that person.

The best ones don't spoon feed you, they help you know how to find valuable sources and give you someone more knowledgeable to bounce ideas off of to get a better understanding.