I have taken reLearnsecurity's PTP course (submitted my report yesterday and waiting for the result). Though I haven't taken GPEN but I would still recommend GPEN over PTP.

PTP is more like a beginner to intermediate level course. They give you enough information about network, system and web app. pentesting but not make you an expert in any one particular area. The one module I really enjoyed in PTP was web application security, but then again, it doesn't teach you everything.

Since you've your OSCP I think you are already past the intermediate stage. I've heard some great things about GPEN and based on the reviews, it appears to be an advanced pentest course, something which suits your profile.

I haven't taken the SANS 560 but managed to get on the SANS 504 (Hacker Techniques, Exploits & Incident Handling) as a facilitator 2 years ago and would recommend the SANS 560 if you have the budget.

Hi,

Sorry to butt in, but since I am currently enrolled in elearnsecurity's PTP course, I thought I would throw my 2 cents in.

Upon first glance at the eLS PTP course, I was extremely excited. I was glad to see they covers network security and system security as well and not just web app security.

Now, with me being more than halfway through the web app security portion, I must say, the English is erroneous and confusing (I am sympathetic as I know English is not the instructor's first language. However, it was unacceptable that I had to go to various external resources to fill in the missing gaps). Second, there is no chatroom where students can converse with other students. Apparently it is on its way, but it's been some time now and we have not received an update. A chatroom cannot be that hard to implement (there is already a forum). Thirdly, and this bugs the hell out of me, there is no direct line of communication between instructor (or other instructors) and student. At present, I can email a support-line email, which does not guarantee a reply, or I can contact the instructor via the forum, again, without guarantee of a reply. I finally received a reply to one of my questions and that was after waiting several days. At present, the eLS course feels more like a very expensive slideshow. I'm almost afraid to submit my pen-test report, because I feel like I am missing something 

Some of you will think my review is unduly harsh, but I honestly believe that it is precisely this criticism that will inspire improvements. The trouble is that would-be instructors cannot just throw brain dumps up on a site and charge for access, there needs to be interactivity, you need to be there for your customer/student to answer any question that may arise (because what is the difference between this and a book or video learning). We pay our fees and expect that there will be an instructor there to help us when we get stuck.

Now, with all that said, the course is slated to be updated sometime soon. Again, nobody has set a date, so can't say when that is, only "soon". So perhaps the update will address all my concerns. Guess I'll have to wait and see.

Thanks for listening to my review.

hungrymind

Hi eternal_security,

Thanks for the nice reply. I am glad I could shed some insight as one who is currently taking the eLS course.

To provide an update, I am still waiting for the lead instructor, Armando, to return two of my inquiries.

I also want to point out that there are absolutely no refunds. Which can be hard to swallow for many (as often times we sign up for something thinking it is one thing but turns out to be not what you had expected/needed/required).

I require very detailed step-by-step explanations and access to an instructor (even if only via email and/or chat). And so far, I am struggling with both of these issues.

Thanks for listening to my review. Again, glad it helped.

Best regards,
hungrymind

I have done both the OSCP and the GPEN. The GPEN compliments the OSCP quite well. The OSCP is just 'raw power'. While the GPEN is more refined .

The GPEN covers a lot of the business aspects and this is one area where the OSCP falls short.

Ok, Let's say our response time is from 15 minutes (from my BlackBerry), to 12 hours if I'm in a training session.

Let's try to consider that ours is a self paced course and that we provide instructor support for free and at our best effort. 

Moreover for technical issues we also have a chat system directly with me or my staff. This time it's 0 minutes delay.

I definitely understand my students needs for quick responses.
I'm also thinking of providing classes of service so that more demanding students can get faster response times.