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« on: November 02, 2010, 08:44:31 AM »

Hi Guys,
I have completed a degree in computer science and worked my way up through the ranks from helpdesk to 3rd line support. I have passed Security+ and other Cisco and Microsoft certifications although I'm now thinking of getting out of the technical game but unsure of what roles involving security are available! I'm not in a rush to get out of the technical role and looking to complete a few certs that will allow me to change over. I was thinking that the MCSA: Sec, MCSE: Sec & CCSA/CCSP are the big ones in technical security, and i should now be looking CEH, (ISC)2 and possibly MSC: Infosec. Really feel that i need some guidance in relation to this in respect to Recognition, time it takes to study, cost, prerequisites, required training programs etc.

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James
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 09:17:21 AM »

you've got the Sec+, that's a start. However from there the question should be what aspect of Security do you want to do?

Red team (attack / pentest)
Blue team (defense)
Policy maker (management)

etc.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 07:23:50 PM »

TBH im not overly sure as haven't had much experience in what's outside the IT support roles, what kinda certs would we be looking at in each of these areas?
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 11:46:45 PM »

Red team, CEH, anything Offensive Security, SANS certs
Blue team, firewall certs, incident handler certs , SANS certs
Management CISSP (from what I've heard).
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 08:00:22 AM »

is this the only 3 areas? where does forensics fit into this model?
With exception of Security+ are there any other certifications that provide a fundamental introduction?
Another query is to what 'Value' these certs hold? are some easier yet more recognised than others or approved my other certifications??
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 08:50:12 AM »

Forensics(CHFI) will be under blue team.

One more to the list.
Reverse Engineering - CREA, GREM

Yes there are some certs(CEH) that are more recognized, easier to attain covers fundamentals but does not really say that you can do the job.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 04:54:43 PM »

So the areas of security can be split into the following four areas:
Reverse engineering
Red team
Blue team
Management

Any More?
What does 'Reverse Engineering' actually involve?
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 06:08:00 PM »

For fundamentals you are pretty much looking at Sec+, then either CEH or SANS GSEC for a technical path. I would say that these certs are good foundations for red or blue teamers.

When it comes to management, you can add CISA and CISM to the list, but 9 out of 10 times, the CISSP is good enough.

As for Reverse Engineering, I assume we are talking about reverse engineering malware. Basically finding malicious code and tearing it apart to see how it was written, and possibly how to defend against it. Really, I would throw this under the blue team bus.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 11:03:47 PM »

Great so i could prob break this down into:

Foundation
Technical Administration (red/Blue team)
Management
Legal??

Does auditing come under management or would this justify its own category? What Certs would you be looking at for Auditing/Legal??
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 07:16:22 AM »

Great so i could prob break this down into:

Foundation
Technical Administration (red/Blue team)
Management
Legal??

Does auditing come under management or would this justify its own category? What Certs would you be looking at for Auditing/Legal??

Ok, call me stupid and flame me if you want....but what are red and blue team?  I've seen it in several posts, I've heard the terms, but I've never really known what they are.

Thanks!

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 08:43:07 AM »

Simply put:
Red team = offensive, attacking team
Blue team = defensive team
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 09:24:50 AM »

Simply put:
Red team = offensive, attacking team
Blue team = defensive team

Thanks awesec.  I know it probably seemed stupid, and I had an idea that they correlated to offensive/defensive teams somehow, but I never really knew.  (Thanks also for not flaming me  Wink  ).

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2010, 08:14:54 AM »

Asking questions is one step on the path to knowledge. the other is google. Wink (No, not yahoo, google.)
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2010, 07:33:28 AM »

Asking questions is one step on the path to knowledge. the other is google. Wink (No, not yahoo, google.)

Amen!


....I think that the CIW sec analyst is another good, basic foundation cert
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2010, 01:45:30 PM »

I think CIW Sec is a good one too, I was planning on knocking it out before the retirement next year, whether I do or not depends on my schedule.
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