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Port Scan from random Source IP's
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October 21, 2010, 09:26:06 AM »
I've read about Dynamic port scanning, but the I thought that the spoofed IP's needed to be within the same subnet? Cany anyone help me out here?
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Re: Port Scan from random Source IP's
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NMAP has a variety of spoofing and IDS evasion options available. They are very well documented here:
http://nmap.org/book/man-bypass-firewalls-ids.html
In general, if you want to spoof an IP address, you have to have control of that address in order for you to get a reply. This is just due to the design of the TCP/IP protocol suite. You don't always care if the spoofed packets come back to you. Sometimes, you just want to flood the IDS with a bunch of random sources masking the actual port scan. A really stupid IDS will make it difficult for the operator to detect your port scan.
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Idle scanning is useful for detection evasion. You don't actually need to receive the replies from your scans as long as you've identified a nice quiet host to spoof and you don't have to control that address either, but you will need access to it.
http://nmap.org/book/idlescan.html
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tturner - why do you need access to the idle host? I think you just need to have an open tcp port to use for the idle scan to increment the IP ID, but you don't need anything further. Or did I misunderstand and you meant access as being such?
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By "access" i guess tturner meant network access to the idle host... Otherwise the change in the sequence no cannot be realized by the attacking host..
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I mean network access. Meaning you can't target a host behind a NAT'd firewall and use another spoofed host on that same network unless you can directly communicate with it. You absolutely do not need any kind of privileged access.
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