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« on: October 21, 2010, 09:26:06 AM »

I've read about Dynamic port scanning, but the I thought that the spoofed IP's needed to be within the same subnet? Cany anyone help me out here?

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2010, 09:51:00 PM »

NMAP has a variety of spoofing and IDS evasion options available.  They are very well documented here:

http://nmap.org/book/man-bypass-firewalls-ids.html

In general, if you want to spoof an IP address, you have to have control of that address in order for you to get a reply.  This is just due to the design of the TCP/IP protocol suite.  You don't always care if the spoofed packets come back to you.  Sometimes, you just want to flood the IDS with a bunch of random sources masking the actual port scan.  A really stupid IDS will make it difficult for the operator to detect your port scan.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 08:33:06 AM »

Idle scanning is useful for detection evasion. You don't actually need to receive the replies from your scans as long as you've identified a nice quiet host to spoof and you don't have to control that address either, but you will need access to it.

http://nmap.org/book/idlescan.html

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2010, 09:56:43 AM »

tturner - why do you need access to the idle host?  I think you just need to have an open tcp port to use for the idle scan to increment the IP ID, but you don't need anything further.  Or did I misunderstand and you meant access as being such?
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2010, 10:05:47 AM »

By "access"  i guess tturner meant network access to the idle host... Otherwise the change in the sequence no cannot be realized by the attacking host..
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 10:35:12 AM »

I mean network access. Meaning you can't target a host behind a NAT'd firewall and use another spoofed host on that same network unless you can directly communicate with it. You absolutely do not need any kind of privileged access.
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