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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 10:22:33 AM »

the link doesn't include any practice exam, i need any download valid download link,

Appreciate any help!


I received a personal message from you, "sans2010".
The subject is "Need ur help!!"
I have good news for you - YES! I can help you. Please continuing reading carefully.


You asked me for a "dump to pass the Exam". Below is the message that you sent to me:

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« Sent to: marcos_s on: October 12, 2010, 04:30:59 PM »

hi,

could you please help me, I am preparing GPEN, I need a valid exam dump
to pass the Exam, I take the course self study as i have no money except for the exam.

I was going to purchase passguide / ucertify dump file,
here is my email: sans_2010@live.com
kindly let me what % from dump can be found in the Exam,

I am afraid from the exam,

Appreciate ur help,





Firstly, I will NOT send you any exam questions (dump). The reasons are obvious:

I have several certifications previous to the GPEN (CISM, CISSP,Oracle Certified DBA, MCSE, and A+). If I start creating and distributing dumps I can lose my certifications. 

By today's standards, with all the copyright notices and Non-Disclosure Agreements that come with every exam, braindumps are illegal. And are unethical. Not to say highly harmful to the people who have the certification already.




Secondly, (and these are the good news) this is the help that I can provide to you:


I will prepare (on a separate post) a list of resources for people who want to honestly learn the material via self study. I hope my following post will help others that are genuinely interested in the subject, and passing the exam truthfully.

In any case, it is clear that you do not want to learn anything, but simply are trying to find a way to cheat the exam.



Sincerely,

Marcos Santiago
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 10:38:51 AM »

Here's a post from another forum where he's digging for dumps:

http://www.mcse.net/other-certifications/16008-req-urgently-need-help.html

And claims to have the following:

MCSE+SEC, MCITP Enterprise administrator ( Exchange 2007 & windows server 2008 ), MCTS ( Vista, Win 7, SCCM )
CEHv.6, ECSA v.3, CHFI v.3
CCNA

BillV, can we check to see if he used the same email to register for the EC-Council exams? Maybe someone can come up with a name...

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 12:14:10 PM »

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I will prepare (on a separate post) a list of resources for people who want to honestly learn the material via self study. I hope my following post will help others that are genuinely interested in the subject, and passing the exam truthfully.

I would find this incredibly useful! Thank you, marcos_s!!!
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2010, 06:43:12 AM »

I second ziggy_567!

I did self-study for GSEC and manage to find enough material to pass the exam. As soon as I am done with OSCP, I would like to go after GPEN but without taking the course.

This would help me a lot!!!
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2010, 07:53:11 AM »

@marcos_s,

you misunderstood me, I meant by dump the "practice test", Just to check how the exam difficulty, I have passed multiple certificate after studying the material. I will not search for dump or practice test & I don't study hard & got all the practice to pass any cert.

Any way I am very sorry that I sent you PM asking for help as it has gone to the wrong not trusted person. as you may know if I am wrong at certain idea you can reply to the PM just in advice way which you don't know or you didn't deal like that before.

I think you may need to differentiate between PM & New Post!!!  Huh

@jason,

who bring to your mind that I can register any exams with same account for any forum, it's the lowest little bit of security you can't take into your consideration.

when any one say I have passed certain certificate after studying certain material, all the stuff will say congratulation & we trust that, we can't say you are lying!!

So I think it's not your business to say " he is claiming that he has...." or posting any thing from other forum, you will be very shame & nervous if I say you don't know any about security & hasn't any certificate  Kiss

@ziggy_567,

Thank you very much for much appreciate info, I am going to pass the exam after registration. I am going to purchase the practice. Within 3-4 Months I will got the certificate
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2010, 08:25:42 AM »

Remember communication is always a problem. If you mention the "dump" word we think in the people to cheat to pass the exam.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2010, 01:42:19 PM »

Pardon me for calling BS on this, but this:

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could you please help me, I am preparing GPEN, I need a valid exam dump
to pass the Exam, I take the course self study as i have no money except for the exam.

I was going to purchase passguide / ucertify dump file,
here is my email: sans_2010@live.com
kindly let me what % from dump can be found in the Exam,

Does not indicate to me that you were innocently looking for a practice test. Passguide is a known braindump site and you specifically asked what percentage of the dump could be found on the test. Given your posts here and on the other forum that I pointed out, I think it's completely reasonable to call into doubt the other certifications that you may have cheated your way through. In any case, you now know, from the other posts how you can get a legitimate practice test, and that we aren't going to help you with anything unethical. If you'd like to discuss other topics on the forum, we'd be happy to have you.

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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2010, 11:12:14 AM »

@marcos_s,

you misunderstood me, I meant by dump the "practice test"...

blah
blah
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Oh, it was only a "misunderstanding".

Anyway... What makes you think that I have "practice tests" to give away? For free?

Huh

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2010, 11:45:00 AM »

Free is good, hahahahahaha

Joking Grin
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2010, 03:37:14 PM »

@marcos,

As I told you, This was sent to actually the wrong person as he is not trusted to have communication with, Many guys bought materials & upload for free which is much appreciated , I didn't have enough info regarding the exam GPEN as I was studying only & not intend to think in the exam,

Finally, It's very nice to mark on one of the guys as a junk, like e-mails not trusted, Actually I can find much guys that are much appreciated & no need to extend our communication.      Lips sealed

@jason,

Thank you for your clarification, I will pass the Exam after purchasing the practice, I think no need to have discussion any more, if I need any help I am sure that I will got fast reply from respected guys who have Good communication skills. Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2010, 04:29:46 PM »

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Many guys bought materials & upload for free which is much appreciated

I know some people that would be very interested to know where these free materials are. Would you be so kind to mail this link to info(at)sans(dot)org or info(at)giac(dot)org?

Thanks!
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2010, 10:09:47 AM »

Hey guys in I did reschedule my exam for Nov 13, day before my bday. I ordered Ed's book for the test and for the knowledge. If anyone has the note style index they can pass on let me know. I'm not like the other guy wanting a dump. I am looking for a good index to use and help study with. But I'll be doing the pac exams too.  No matter I'm sure I'll pass. If I can pass Josh's GAWM I should be ok with this.

 Marcos please email me the link to this site you are creating for people who arevreally trying to learn
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2010, 10:44:07 AM »

That's true, I would like to know a list of books where we can study.
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2010, 05:10:57 PM »

Amazing that SANS2010 didn't look at the GIAC site, where it tells you you can get the tests with a challenge registration. Now I will give you that there may be a communication barrier, but The word "dump" is very well known in the IT field. I'm sure someone with your experience is very aware of its usage.

As for individuals who buy and upload them, while I have my own opinions on the issue, it is illegal, and I'm sure you would be aware of that, had you done your research. In addition, I wouldn't call him untrustworthy, had you pm'ed anyone else, they probably would have done the same, or simply reported you to SANS.

Enough ranting, here's some advice. Go to the GIAC site, see if they have exam objectives posted on there. Find material that can help you master those objectives, and study those until you are either ready to challenge the exam, or have the funds to purchase the study material.
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