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« on: September 01, 2010, 08:55:09 AM »

As many of you may know, CREST is a UK non-profit offering credentials in ethical security testing. They are making attempts to move out of just providing credentials in the UK and are moving into the US market and eventually go global.

I'd like to talk to any EH-Net reader about their thoughts and experiences with CREST. Please PM me with your thoughts on the org and their offerings.

For those who don't know, here is the about section:

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CREST is a not for profit organisation and is governed by a formal Memorandum of Association (MOA) as a company limited by guarantee. Under this MOA, companies are invited to join a trade association as members, subject to certifying that they meet the minimum standards of ethics, methodologies, and technical capability.

In contracting a CREST member organisation to perform a security test, a client can feel secure in the knowledge that the work will be carried out to rigorous standards by qualified, knowledgeable individuals.

Penetration testing is a widely accepted method of assuring information security and has become an integral part of many organisations operational and technology risk management programs. Yet despite the widespread use of penetration testing, there has historically been a definite lack of agreed standards and practices.

CREST (Council of Registered Ethical Security Testers) was created in response to the need for regulated and professional security testers to serve the global information security marketplace. CREST`s main aim is to represent the information security testing industry and offer a demonstrable level of assurance as to the competency of organisations and individuals within those approved companies.

CREST is a standards-based organisation for penetration test suppliers incorporating a best practice technical certification programme for individual consultants. Additionally CREST provides its members with a framework of guidance including standards, methodologies and recommendations aimed at ensuring the very highest standards of leading-edge security testing


For more info:
http://www.crest-approved.org/

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 09:00:35 AM »

Hi Don,

I would be interested it what you find about these guys as a company. The seven safe guys have mentioned that they do 2 courses that get you CREST qualified. Would just be out of interest now though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2010, 01:47:20 PM »

Yes, I have also heard the same thing from Ian Glover at a conference here in the UK recently.  I am hoping we get some answers to this one as CREST CCT Infastructure exam also gives you CHECK Team Leader status which is pretty much the certification Pen Testers in UK want to have.  They have also released an intermediate level CRT which is next on my list!
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 04:06:32 PM »

NBISE is now accepting registration for beta CREST exams

http://nbise.org/certifications.php
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 08:36:13 PM »

I always see that certification. It looks interesting and pricy too.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2010, 09:28:30 PM »

I am scheduled for the Oct. 18th to take the CRT in Orlando.  I currently hold a CCNA, CWNA, OSCP, Security+.  I have been looking around for study material for the CREST exams and it seems to be non-existent.  If anyone else is taking it and are interested in studying please feel free to drop me a pm.

Also for a little background, to be able to touch a .gov systems in the UK you have to be CHECK certified by CESG (guessing it's similiar to NSA here).  CREST certs are a requirement to become CHECK certified, so from what I understand CESG helped defined the objectives, etc.

http://www.gchq.gov.uk/about_us/cesg.html  <-- Info about CESG
http://www.cesg.gov.uk/products_services/iacs/check/index.shtml  <-- Info about CHECK

*Disclaimer*  This is just from what I have read and gather from talking to people in the UK
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 12:31:29 PM »

I'm also scheduled for the CRT in Orlando. I'm still debating this week whether I'm actually willing to pony up 600.00 for an exam I don't know much about or if I'd be better off paying for that GCIH challenge I keep meaning to take (Am a class alumni but never took exam and will need for GSE). If anyone has more info I'd appreciate it. The following link may help in preparation.

http://www.crest-approved.org/crest-notes-for-candidates-CRT-v1.1.pdf

Feel free to hit me up in you want to coordinate study. For pentesting certs I have GPEN and GAWN only (in addition to CISSP, CISA and some other GIAC and other industry certs)
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 01:21:53 PM »

Thought I would just also add that the pilot exam is the EXACT same exam as the one in the UK.  So if you take it you will be 'officially' CREST certified, regardless of what becomes of NBISE.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2010, 07:26:40 AM »

@ JrGong - There is indeed no "official" reading or training for the CREST certification. I know a few people whom have performed the CCT level certifications and they have confirmed that as long as you know the information on the syllabus and have a few years experience pen testng you should be ok.  It certainly IS NOT an easy certification and is very far from CEH level.  I am intending to do the CRT (intermediate level) here in the UK at the end of the year  Smiley

http://www.crest-approved.org/crest-technical-syllabus-v1.3.pdf
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2010, 05:28:11 PM »

Thanks for the info T_Bone.  I think I have most of the knowledge that is on the syllabus but I do not have any experience doing pentesting so I m brushing up on methodologies etc.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2010, 09:37:22 AM »

Having researched a lot of options I decided to take the CAST course because I wanted to prep for the CREST application tester exam and it is a hands on course aligned with CREST.

Having gained the CSTA and CSTP certs with 7Safe previously (I am in the UK), I found the CAST exam to be a major step up in terms of the learning level.  It is designed to make you think, and our instructor was an experienced pen tester. The exam was a series of challenges - and in the end about 30% of us managed a pass.

I understand this is being offered in the US as well, what with CREST becoming an international standard. 

http://www.7safe.com/application_security_training_course.htm

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2010, 04:44:27 PM »

@ trighger

Wow that course does sound pretty difficult if only 30% passed. Sounds like it would be good prep for the CREST CCT level if this is the case Smiley
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