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« on: February 19, 2010, 06:13:46 AM »

Hi,

I can only go to either Defcon (Las Vegas) or Hope (New York) this summer.
Which one do you recommend?

I have been to Defcon last year and I loved it. I have never been to Hope.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 06:57:55 AM »

I thought HOPE was done a couple years ago?
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 07:22:01 AM »

I thought HOPE was done a couple years ago?

HOPE is done every year.  I think that's their thing.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 07:56:30 AM »

I've been to both, and will probably go to both this year as well. HOPE is smaller in attendance, but feels more underground. DefCon has many more attendees and tracks, but feels more like a party.

It really depends on what you're trying to get out of the conference. Since HOPE is every other year, you might go to HOPE now, and DefCon next year just to experience both. If I could only go to one, it would probably be DefCon since it "feels" like you get more bang for your buck.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 07:59:04 AM »

There is a reorg in my department at work.  Once the dust settles I hope to get to Defcon next year.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 08:11:36 AM »

I like Defcon, myself, but can't compare the two, as I haven't been to HOPE.  Maybe I'll check out HOPE when opportunity permits, so that I can give 'experienced' advice on the subject, for next time.

I particularly like the atmosphere at Defcon.  While I'd definitely agree with the comment about it being / feeling more like a 'party atmosphere,' at least in my experiences, it seems like the more laid back the folks are, the better networking and discussions I get out of it all, in the end.  The sessions are always worthwhile, but the opportunity to chat it up with the other attendees is what I value the most, as I always end up getting more from those opportunities, than I do from sitting through talks.  I can't speak for how HOPE caters to that, since I haven't attended, but at least I can explain that as one of the areas I like about Defcon, versus some other events I've been to in the past.

If you do go to HOPE, please drop us some feedback, so I can think on it for next time.  Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 09:44:44 AM »

Grendel, you're lucky to go to both, especially that they are very close to each other.

I am worried about Hope being "too underground", with a bunch of guys walking around with black hats and looking at the others like if they were tough (there is always some like that, but...).

Just as a reference:

Hope
Hotel Pennsylvania
New York City
July 16 - 18, 2010

Defcon
Riviera Hotel & Casino
Las Vegas
July 29 - August 1, 2010
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