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hayabusa
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Re: Which language should I learn this summer?
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Quote from: UNIX on June 02, 2009, 03:12:20 AM
Easy ones to learn or start with are Visual Basic, .NET languages and Python. When you want to work in the network field a scripting language such as Python will not be a bad choice but when you aim to be more in the security field you may have often to program tools by yourself where you might get stuck by those languages.
As I read this, it looked like you mean that Python is NOT good for security programming? I hope I misread... (Python is the driving force behind Immunity CANVAS, as well as many other tools.)
My vote goes to Python or Ruby, altough, from my learning, I found Python a bit easier, from the start. As someone else had noted, though, once you truly understand a language, others come more easily, as it's more about specific syntax and API's, when you change languages.
Good luck!
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I'll probably get flamed for this but have you thought about PowerShell? It's just about to have Version 2 released and pretty soon it will be default on all new Windows OS's replacing good ol' Cmd.exe.
I think of it like this, when I get a shell on a box at the moment I need to know my Command Line Kung Fu, well in a couple of years that Kung Fu is going to be all PowerShell Fu. And I'll tell you this, there isn't much you can't do with it.
Just my thoughts anyway.
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This is what i see most:
C - Learning/Knowing C is the best way to know the machine inside and out, including how to exploit it.
Perl - Most hacking tools are written in perl or python
Python -Most hacking tools are written in perl or python
Ruby - Metasploit development is in Ruby
BASH and CMD.exe - learning your way around the command lines saves you valuable time during post exploitation or incident handling, depending on what you do
Powershell - Quickly becoming a replacement for scritping tasks that would usually take multiple convoluted commands in cmd.exe and builds in bash commands as well
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Quote from: Hayabusa0194 on June 11, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
As I read this, it looked like you mean that Python is NOT good for security programming? I hope I misread... (Python is the driving force behind Immunity CANVAS, as well as many other tools.)
My vote goes to Python or Ruby, altough, from my learning, I found Python a bit easier, from the start. As someone else had noted, though, once you truly understand a language, others come more easily, as it's more about specific syntax and API's, when you change languages.
Good luck!
Maybe it was a little hard to understand what I meant because of language difficulties, sorry.
I really like Python and have to program in it by myself a lot and not only security related stuff. I think it is important for a skilled pentester to know at least one scripting language as it can help and ease many tasks.
However, in my opinion there are some things where python (and similar languages) are not the best choice and 'lacking' a little bit of power/ control.
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Not wanting to take this too far off topic, but I'd second Synjunkie and Jhaddix advice regarding powershell; in the future you're going to at least need a basic knowledge of it's fundementals.
Powershell was a recent topic presented by
Jonathan Noble
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SuperMondays gathering
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video
of the presentation may be a good way to spend a few minutes this Friday afternoon to get a passing familiarity of PowerShell's abilities.
I now return you to you're previously scheduled programming language holy war...
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Hey, thanks Don. One more question, which certification do you think i should do now?? I was thinking about CCNA security. What do you suggest?? others please do help me with your advice. Thank You.
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I am a fresher, do i need work experience to do pursue CCNA Security??
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Quote from: mohsinhafeez on June 14, 2009, 11:09:09 AM
I am a fresher, do i need work experience to do pursue CCNA Security??
No, I don't think there is an experience requirement but I do believe you need CCNA first.
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Yes BillV, I have completed CCNA, now I want to pursue CCNA Security and then CCSP, any suggestions?? I want to get into the field of network security. Thank You.
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