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I just read an article in a news paper about how some attackers stole $1.2 millions in a few minutes, but I begin to laugh when they begin to take actions about how the employees surf on internet and other security actions AFTER THEY GOT THE INCIDENT.
I have a supervisor that always tells me, we never got that kind of problems, so do not worry, jajajajaja, It is very difficult to change their mind. It is necessary to be pro-active.
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That sentiment is pretty common. Sadly, "we aren't a big enough target", or "it'll never happen to us" are heard too often.
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so so so true. I run into this every single day. It makes no sense. but really it is just ignorance. If you dont understand the digital world it is hrd to understand the threat. Most people think "I have no idea how to do that or why you would do that, so I bet prety much everyone else is in my shoes." But those same people would never say "I like to leave my doors and windows open when I leave the house. Ive never had an issue with burglary, so..." that is because they can feel see and touch the issue. I think:)
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You will not bealive this: my supervisor (IT manager) with 11 years in this company says the same, no body it is interesting to attack our company.
And when one of his programm does not work he said inmediatly: Too much security, too much security.
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Changing technology is easy...changing culture is hard. I think changing this cultural mind set can only be done by constantly making your managers and employees aware of the risks. Reminding them of the bottom dollar value of a security incident. reminding them that security is everybody’s problem.
I have implemented the most radical and successful changes to organizations after an 'incident' has occurred. This seem to be the only time when they are willing to listen...otherwise, it is a constant uphill battle.
I would never say, "if you want to have an accident, buy insurance"...and i would never say "if you want to change your companies security culture, have a security incident!" but security, like life, can be paradoxical.
We seem to learn best after making mistakes....and the bigger the mistake and the more it costs us, the more likely we are to change.
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Your right it is a culture and attitude thing.
Organisations look at the risks, and are always looking on the ROI. Sadly with many things companies struggle to see the benefits and enablements that security can and does bring.
As already stated, everyone always thinks it wont happen to them, but the paranoid infosec professional has other thoughts.
We need to put ourselves in the business mindset, and then educate at the right level. The key thing is to document the thoughts and risks as you see them, and plan how you will react when the attack / breach does occur.
Good old human nature.
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