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« on: March 23, 2009, 08:52:14 PM »

Two researchers from Core have developed "methods for infecting the BIOS with persistent code that will survive reboots and reflashing attempts" An article on it:

http://threatpost.com/blogs/researchers-unveil-persistent-bios-attack-methods

and the slides from the presentation:

http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/core_bios.pdf

Man I would have liked to have seen this talk. If anyone knows of video of it, please ping me.
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 09:22:19 PM »

Sounds awesome.  I really do love stuff like this.   Let me know if you find the video please.

I am assuming that the rootkit will be detectable when they try to re-infect the BIOS on reboot.   There has to be some sort of OS hook, especially in Windows.   That should lead to a signature AV can pickup.  Of course, we all know how well signatures work.

I stumbled onto this while looking for the video.  It's a bit old, but very interesting I thought:

http://securitywatch.eweek.com/pci_rootkit.pdf
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 10:11:46 PM »

Interestingly enough i had a client recently with a MBR virus. Funny how the old becomes the new again!
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 09:17:27 AM »

Sounds awesome.  I really do love stuff like this.   Let me know if you find the video please.

I am assuming that the rootkit will be detectable when they try to re-infect the BIOS on reboot.   There has to be some sort of OS hook, especially in Windows.   That should lead to a signature AV can pickup.  Of course, we all know how well signatures work.

I stumbled onto this while looking for the video.  It's a bit old, but very interesting I thought:

http://securitywatch.eweek.com/pci_rootkit.pdf

If it is a root kit AV will have a tough time finding it since it can control what the AV sees. Ah, glorious root kits.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 09:59:14 AM »

timmedin,

I'm with you on that.  The rootkit will control what the OS sees.  More correctly, a properly coded rootkit will control what the OS sees.  The BIOS rootkit must exist in a relatively small space on the BIOS (remember we still need to bootstrap the system from there too).  This means it doesn't have that much code to be able to cover all the bases.  I'd be interested to do some testing on one of these to see what it misses.  I'm not naive enough to believe that simple documented API calls will work to discover it, but I'm betting some (most) of the undocumented Windows API calls won't be hooked appropriately and hence you'll be able to detect the rootkit with specialized kernel mode code (possibly loaded in as a driver).
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