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« on: March 03, 2009, 09:56:43 AM »

In Brian Chess's column in the back of the January/February issue of InFoSecurity Magazine (but not the online version - http://www.infosecurity-us.com), he claims that "2009 will see the death of pen testing as we know, and love, it."  He gives a few good arguments as to why pen testing in on the verge of an evolutionary metamorphosis that will make it “less distinct but more pervasive."  He further predicts that pen testing will "get wrapped into a much lager and far more comprehensive approach to improving security." 

I don't necessarily think this transformation will occur in 2009, but with our new president’s focus on a federal role in IT security and the other preverbal dominos starting to line up, it is inevitable that pen testing as it gets tied closer to business processes will play a pervasive role in a holistic approach to security management.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 10:12:51 AM »

I can definitely see that.  I don't work for a purely infosec company.  We do more forensics than anything.   When we do pen testing, it's almost always as part of a larger sec audit (ISO17799, etc).   If we are doing an audit, it's usually because we were hired to do forensics in response to an incident.   Their problems are usually more procedural than technical.  (Not they don't have technical.)   If IT department goes rogue, the preventative methods are usually more procedural.   
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 10:18:53 AM »

this sentiment has been arround for a while.  although we all love attacking stuff, it doesn't necessarily prove anything unless there's a more comprehensive approach.

Justin has a great blogpost here explaining why he thinks pen-tests are bullshit.  quite good.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 04:39:09 PM »

Well, if you use the extremely limited and narrow description of the term pent tester as just someone trying to exploit a box, then I would agree. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 08:03:03 PM »

if you also sell source code auditing software you may feel that way too.
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