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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 06:22:39 AM »

One thing I've just noticed with the CREA exam itself is according to the website it is merely a multiple choice exam.

This confuses me a bit because the CEPT and CPT certifications have practical components - that's what makes them such good certifications.  it further confuses me that the CEPT exam has a binary reversing component, but the Reversing exam does not despite their obvious capability for administering practical assessment.

surely a crackme or two wouldn't go astray in increasing the value of this cert?  I've sent them an e-mail asking about it in anycase.

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 06:36:35 AM »

Now that is dedication:
Requesting that the examination process is made harder for you Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 12:42:54 PM »

Got an e-mail back from Jack Koziol (snipped for relevence):

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You have very valid points about the CREA. We are working hard on getting the practical portion set up for this exam, and are currently "beta testing" a number of different practicals. We initially had a number of simple crackmes, but all of the CREA certification board members decided it would be best to include a mix of traditional "crackmes" and malware, because so many people out there are looking for reversers to reverse malware. The challenge has been how to properly distrubute malware for the pratical, we have to accomplish two goals:

1. Make sure there isnt a write up on the malware somewhere else, which would just encourage cheating or "peeking"
2. Properly "neuter" the malware so it cannot harm someone's computer who is doing the pratical.

Number 1 is much harder than number 2, because security community seems to love to rip apart just about every piece of widely circulated malware and post ooodles of details all over blogs, etc. Wink

Anyway, to make a long story short, we are definately working hard on the pratical portion of the exam, and we do expect a rollout and conversion for certification candidates in Feburary of 2009.

Awesome :-)

and so I asked if he recommended taking the exam now or later (and also for permission to post his comments here) and I got back:

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I sure wish that all of our exam candidates were as hard working as
you. You should see the number of people complaining about having to do the
CEPT or CPT practicals. But, that is the whole idea, to weed these
candidates out.

I would recommend you take the exam now, and, for kicks, I will let you know
when the practical is ready and you can retake the practical portion if you
are up for it. Ill send it to you ahead of time before we release them to
the public, id like to hear your comments.

double-plus-awesome!

in addition - they're short on people who would be capable of producing valid test-cases and would appreciate any volunteers.

Course is going well - I have some concerns about it though but I'll hold back on commenting too much until I finish it.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2008, 02:44:33 AM »

Nick,

thanks for the update, sounds like a good course with some interesting developments coming in the future.

As an aside I just tried a simple google search to try and find the price of the course ('CREA reverse'), and this thread is number 2 Cheesy. Waaaay above a link to the actual course.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2008, 04:15:52 AM »

the course costs $2,950, although they had an introductory offer in August (which may or may not still be going of $1,950, which is what I paid.

at this stage, I would unfortunately have to recommend NOT getting the course.

I've nearly finished and should post a review early next week and you can make up your own mind but IMHO it needs quite a bit of improving, it's not that it's bad or lacks content.

I would instead recommend 'Reversing - the secrets of reverse engineering' by Eldad Eilam. A significant cost-saving compared to the course and yet scarily similar content.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2008, 10:08:14 AM »

Nick,

cheers for the update, looking forward to you full review.

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