Thanks a ton.However, one thing my supervisor says is that if the test tool cant crash the server,it suggests that the tool aint good enuff.
But it cud also mean that the server is robust and secure in which case i can list out the reasons y the attacks arent working anymore and the explanations wud fetch me the required credits.

thanx 4 the info bout the daemons,i wasnt aware of that...so in that case DoS isnt that easy to implement as some of the earlier posts suggest...

Makes sense to me if you could link your tester to a nessus/nmap/etc. scan output then you're getting more automated


Not entirely true, DoS attacks can be the simplest form of assault on a system (other than SE ). But if a system isn't running the service/application you are attacking it is just going to ignore you.

More basically, if you are trying to DoS a system using the apache2 attack you mentioned for example. If the system isn't running apache2 to server web documents then there is no service for you to deny...

Same way you don't need to bring a web server to it's knees to effectively stop it serving web content. Again, I'd recommend that you make sure that you have a well defined scope so that you can effectively prove you have achieved the targets of your project, thus getting the most marks for your project (which I'm assuming is your true goal )

No thanks, just got out of that game. I've just got used to sleeping again

ok,i removed that post....i really didnt mean to hurt or flame vijay2.....ofcourse theres plenty of stuff on the net,but as u said it doesnt help if you don't know what to search for.And i got to submit an initial proposal for the project by the 2nd,so there aint much time to read all the basic stuff n then plan things from the ocean of knowledge.so thats reason i ask experts like u.....vijay did try to help,but it really freaks me out when
i post something,RR or someone else trys to help n vijay has a thing or 2 to say bout it......just made me  wonder what the matter was with him...anyways,its over as far as i'm concerned,peace with vijay2.cheers buddy....hope ur ok with me

I'm a little confused, and please correct me if I'm out of line. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

If, as you stated, this is for your dissertation, shouldn't you already have built a pretty solid foundation of knowledge on the subject?  Especially if you're planning on testing your theories in an environment other than a lab?

Servercrash,

I was going to make this suggestion but oneeyedcarmen beat me to it. I'm not sure of your level of study as I don't know where you are studying but if you have 2 days to get the initial proposal in and you are needing information like this you may want to look at a less technical area, where research material will be easier to find and readily available.

As already stated when I completed my dissertation (UK BSc) my project was built on a technology that I had over one year's real world experience implementing, and still found it hard going.

Therefore I would ask one final question, 'Why have you chosen this project over any other?'

Either way, whatever your final topic as has been expressed by other posters you will get more respect, learn more information and ultimately complete a better project if you can fully understand and research the basics for yourself.

Good Luck.

Great first post jason007 and welcome to EH-Net.

As to servercrasher's question, maybe it might be wise to pint out that there is a difference between crashing a server and a DoS.

If I walk up to one of my servers in a datacenter, and either unplug the network cable or properly shut it down, you could make the case that this is DoS since no users can get to it. But this would not be a case of crashing a server. To me, crashing a server would indicate something sinister or wrong that causes it to shut down improperly or restart.

In addition, a stress test is yet a third topic. It could be somewhat related to a crash or DoS but it doesn't have to be. I could run a stress test on a server and it doesn't come down. Depending on what your purpose is, this could be a successful or unsuccessful test.

So I guess I would agree with the overarching point of this thread which is to have servercrasher bring a tighter focus to his own project and then ask questions based on more specific topics.

Hope this helps,
Don

PS - Cooler heads always prevail!

So let's call this one a day for now.

Thread closed.

Don