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I need some opinions.
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March 27, 2008, 05:31:31 AM »
Hello all. I'm a 19 year old college student. I will graduate next year with two Associates Degree's, one in Nework Administration, the other in Information Systems Security. I go to well known technical college here in Kentucky. Prometric, and Vue are located at my Tech school. From my time there until graduation, I will recieve my A+, Net+, CNA, MCP, MSCE, MSCA, CCNA, SCNP, SCNA. After that I'm going to get my Bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I know I want to focus my career on Security. So what other certifications are out there for Security? That are well known? Becuase I want to self study for these other certification before I graduate so I can have a edge when it comes to getting a job. Thanks for reading. By the way, this site is awesome.
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March 27, 2008, 07:36:54 AM »
After doing a little bit of research. I guess the first "Security" Certification I will start with is Security +. Is this a good stepping stone in Network Security?
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March 27, 2008, 01:54:07 PM »
quick list after Security +:
-CISSP
-CISM
-CISA
-CEH
-OSCP
-GCIH
Please note that you'll do better starting off with the more technical certs (CEH, OSCP) because the more administrative ones (CISSP, CISM, CISA) require years of employment in the field.
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March 27, 2008, 06:08:19 PM »
security + is a good move. you should check out this link for whatever ebooks you need.
http://www.network-ebooks.com
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Quote from: iSmith on March 27, 2008, 06:08:19 PM
security + is a good move. you should check out this link for whatever ebooks you need.
http://www.network-ebooks.com
I highly doubt that website legal, considering those are all copyrighted works that most people have to pay for.
I'm all for free stuff, but I wouldn't want anyone to get in trouble for copyright infringement.
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March 28, 2008, 02:39:09 AM »
I would say concentrate on your University Bacholres studies, and choose your subjects wisely. that is either choose a subject to strengthen a techical weakness, or to explore in depth more an area you enjoy and you have a slight exposure to it. one problem is that some of the universities and some of the textbook do not catch up with the latest trends, techniques, and technologies. this can be influenced by you in the course assigmnets, and subject research during studies. if you insist and you still want to do certifications, as advised before a general security certification such as secuirty+, or similar should be useful. if you have the cash which i doubt, or your training is sponosered you can opt for the SANS masters program where you do a number of security certifications and technical reports to gain an accredidted master degree in information security
http://www.sans.edu
, it is still possible doing it as a volunteer, check SANS sites for how, however unlike other certifications you will not be finishing it in less than a year time
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cleanwithit0607
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March 28, 2008, 03:15:53 AM »
Quote from: shawal on March 28, 2008, 02:39:09 AM
I would say concentrate on your University Bacholres studies, and choose your subjects wisely. that is either choose a subject to strengthen a techical weakness, or to explore in depth more an area you enjoy and you have a slight exposure to it. one problem is that some of the universities and some of the textbook do not catch up with the latest trends, techniques, and technologies. this can be influenced by you in the course assigmnets, and subject research during studies. if you insist and you still want to do certifications, as advised before a general security certification such as secuirty+, or similar should be useful. if you have the cash which i doubt, or your training is sponosered you can opt for the SANS masters program where you do a number of security certifications and technical reports to gain an accredidted master degree in information security
http://www.sans.edu
, it is still possible doing it as a volunteer, check SANS sites for how, however unlike other certifications you will not be finishing it in less than a year time
Thanks for the insight. One cool thing about my Technical School, they allow you to come back and sit in a class for FREE! So I can keep updated with the latest technology. Well being that I wont have any kind of loans whenever I graduate because of Financial Aid/UPS/Savings, I might do the Sans Master Degree Program. It would probably pay off, and look really good on a resume. I've just started studying for the Security +. I will let you guys know when I pass. Thanks.
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Re: I need some opinions.
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Quote from: cleanwithit0607 on March 28, 2008, 03:15:53 AM
Thanks for the insight. One cool thing about my Technical School, they allow you to come back and sit in a class for FREE!
Sweet! Wish my University had that arrangement, from someone trying to pay for extra training after graduating take full advantage.
Welcome to EH-Net.
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Wicked!
???are you sure you're 19 to have all those stuff?.
anyway a good site for self-study is
http://www.network-ebooks.com
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Quote from: iSmith on April 03, 2008, 09:58:21 AM
Wicked!
???are you sure you're 19 to have all those stuff?.
anyway a good site for self-study is
http://www.network-ebooks.com
iSmith, you on commission for these guys or something?
As many have said previously the downloads from these sites aren't legit, as this is
ethical
-hacker.net and many of us spend large amounts of hard earned currency buying legitimate copies of these resources any chance you could stop giving them free publicity?
If you need free/copy-left resources for training and study, I'd recommend
google.com
as the only site you need.
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make sure you take some programming classes, you'll need those later.
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Since you already have access to Cisco equipment for the CCNA, you may want to work on your CCSP. Make sure when you hit college for your Computer Science degree, that you pay attention in assembly class, I wish that I had paid more attention there. If any scripting languages are taught, that will be helpful for you to pick up either there or on your own. As far as certs go, I wouldn't go and get a lot of certs before you get experience in the workplace. They may get you in the door some places, but if you load up on certs now, they will be a pain to maintain later. It sounds like you already have some strong certs, with CISSP being a good one to come later, but you can use the certs in the future to potentially leverage more pay in jobs once you start. If you are interested in SANS classes, the 504 class isn't a bad start, I really enjoyed it.
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Good News. I work for UPS partime while going to school($9). I know somebody that's in charge of the IT department at UPS. I got hired making $14 an hour. WOW! I mean UPS only has one of the biggest networks in the world. So I can get more experience while going to school. I'm so happy!
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April 06, 2008, 06:30:02 AM »
cleanwithit0607,
sounds like you're getting all the breaks!
Make the most of the opportunity and good luck in your new role.
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cleanwithit0607
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April 12, 2008, 07:03:21 PM »
Quote from: RoleReversal on April 06, 2008, 06:30:02 AM
cleanwithit0607,
sounds like you're getting all the breaks!
Make the most of the opportunity and good luck in your new role.
Thanks RoleReversal,
I'm making the most of it, I love it. I'm so glad I'm not pushing packages anymore
Update: I just recieved the Sybex Security+ book. I'm in the process of studying now.
I will keep updating, this may turn into a blog. lol
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