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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2006, 06:20:25 AM »

I am new to the site and am interested in joining the studying group for the CEH Exam.  

I just recently passed the CISSP and am on to the next giant to conquer.

If you have started a group and there are pre-requisits let me know...

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cese59

No pre-reqs here, welcome to the forum.  This group hasn't really taken off like it had been envisioned.  Are you going the self-study route or the EC-Council route?  They have much more study material now then when I was studying for it.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2006, 10:47:16 AM »

I've volunteered to lead the study group. I passed CEH in Dec 04.
No requirements that I know of, just your own desire, dedication, and commitment. Feel free to email me with any questions...

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2006, 11:10:00 AM »

I'm all for getting the study group ging with Oyle as the lead. But I need suggestions as to how to go about it. We have the Charter Study Group Board we could utilize. Not sure if we want to do that, create a new board, use this one...

Should we create a set of study goals? Recommended books, vids, guides, etc. What happens if not everyone has the same material? Do we assign homework?

Lots of questions to which I don't know the answers.

Let's really get this going, so we all pass the exams this summer. What do you think?

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 04:58:16 AM »

Now that Negrita is going to go for CEH and myself and Oyle have the cert why not get this party started?  Negrita, first things first, get that form filled out and submit it to EC-Council.  They are pretty quick with the approval, and if they are not you have an in with Mr. Donzal!   Tongue

They are still on version 4 and I took it in it's infancy in October last year.  Some things have escaped my memory but will gladly help anyway I can.
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 10:49:16 AM »

So do we want to continue this discussion in the Charter Study Group forum?

http://www.ethicalhacker.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,35/board,24.0

We can update the list of participants of the group and plot out a study path. Dengar13 - I can set you up as a moderator.

Thoughts?

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2006, 01:50:49 PM »

OK dengar, I'll get the wheels in motion.

Dengar13 - I can set you up as a moderator.
Hear hear!! Smiley My vote goes for Dengar. He'll make an outstanding moderator I think. He's been a wonderful member on another forum where I moderate myself. I don't think he'll have too much work as the members here and at CSP seem quite well behaved so far.

I'm all for getting the study group ging with Oyle as the lead. But I need suggestions as to how to go about it. We have the Charter Study Group Board we could utilize. Not sure if we want to do that, create a new board, use this one...

Should we create a set of study goals? Recommended books, vids, guides, etc. What happens if not everyone has the same material? Do we assign homework?

Lots of questions to which I don't know the answers.

Let's really get this going, so we all pass the exams this summer. What do you think?

Don

There are many options. One would be to set up a user group and allow only those users in the group access to a special forum that would be set up for that purpouse. the reason for restricting access would be so that the members of that group would be able to talk openly about things like the details of certain exploits or share the source code of malware, or generally post about things that you wouldn't want to post in an open forum (we are supposed to be ethical here aren't we?!!?!). Don (or Dengar) would have to decide on the criteria for access to that forum - perhaps by sending him a copy of the EC-Councils eligability voucher number.

Regardless of where it's set up, you could open up 22 different sticky threads one for each domain, and the users can add other threads of there own if they wish. Regardless of which study material each member uses, I presume that the exam must be based on the official course material, so it would be best to base the studies around that.

What do you think?
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2006, 02:33:02 PM »

Sounds good to me. I did the CEH class back in June 04, so I have the official course material, pre-May 05 "Ver.4", if there is any differance. I doubt many students would have the courseware, unless they purchase the books off the EC council website. Makes the most sense to me, start up 23 (approx.) different threads based on the different "modules" in the courseware. I could post "starter" threads in each to get the students going.

Could not probably in good conscience recommend any study guides or books outside the courseware that I did not already have exposure to. I didnotice that the actual test covered something that was not covered in my class, namely, URL Deobfuscation. COuld do a thread just based on that; seeing as how it was not in my class but WAS on the exam I did, I would think that would be pretty important.

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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2006, 03:23:56 PM »

I'm not so hot on the idea of a closed group. My whole point for the site is to have an open resource. Even those who are not part of the study group can benefit from the info. Making it read-only for non-members might be a good compromise, but I'm not completely sold on that idea either. I'm heavily leaning towards open forums for everything.

With that in mind, here are some specific questions?

1. Dengar - Will you moderate? If so, I need for you to help decide what materials to use and set a study schedule. I don't want to rush, but I also don't want to wait until the end of the year. A happy medium might be to aim for all of us to take the exam(s) starting July 1. We can discuss details off board if needed.
2. Who's participating? In the Charter Group Intro Post the following members expressed interest: don, dengar13, shavedlegs, mno, bilals91 and tmartin. Looks like we're adding cese59, Oyle and Negrita. I think all who want to participate should check in to that forum and let us know what you have accomplished already... took class, read book(s), already passed an exam, have done nothing yet, etc. and what you plan to do like if you have already signed up for a boot camp.
3. Is this only for CEH or do we want to do both CEH and CPTS? The intro post says both. Confirm your thoughts when you add your name to the intro.
4. I'm thinking we have the separate domain threads in the Ethical Hacking>CEH Category but keep the group study sessions in Certification>The Charter Study Group - Pen Test. This way, when new groups are formed or people just want to get an overview of the domains, no major re-posts are needed, but then each study group can have its own area and pace. I'd like to keep the study groups in the general Certification Category (where the Charter currently resides), because we could have study groups for many other topics IE - The Charter Study Group - Forensics (hint hint).
5. Oyle - Can you start posting introductions for each domain in the CEH Category?

Since it seems like we are all serious this time, let's continue the planning in the Charter Group - Pen Test Forum.

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2006, 04:29:16 PM »

Negrita, thanks for the kind words.  I would be honored to be a mod.  I will post questions on each domain to challenge the study group.  I like what Oyle has suggested a lot!  I will be more than happy to discuss study materials or anything else you want to brainstorm about.  You are right the sooner the better.

I would prefer to do CEH only but that is just my opinion, wouldn't want people going for this cert to get confused.   Shocked

I like the way this is heading!

Don,  one question, if I am a mod does that rule me out of contests?    Cry

PM me if you need my offline info!

Happy ethical hacking!   Grin
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2006, 04:37:03 PM »

One thing I forgot to ask, are there going to be rules on the forum or is it total free speech.  We may need some ground rules but it is your world, Don and I am just living in it.   Wink
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2006, 01:39:52 AM »

Negrita, first things first, get that form filled out and submit it to EC-Council.  They are pretty quick with the approval, and if they are not you have an in with Mr. Donzal!   Tongue
It took me a while to get all the required documentation together, but I eventually did it and faxed everything in at the begining of this week, and I received my eligibility number this morning.

Now all I have to do is study and do the exam.  Cool
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