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« on: May 14, 2007, 02:49:23 PM »

This is kinda interesting...

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Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates 235 of its patents, according to a magazine report published Sunday.

In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith alleges that the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user interface and other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org is accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and open-source programs, according to Fortune.

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That would a pretty tough battle I would think.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2007, 12:11:07 PM »

Here's a lengthy article about how MS is alerting the press and explaining it's position:

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Microsoft vs. Open Source: The Battle Lines are Drawn
By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
May 15, 2007

Opinion: Microsoft says it would prefer to "license rather than litigate" the 235 patents it believes Linux and Open Source violate, but the record says otherwise.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2129973,00.asp

Let the arguments begin!!

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2007, 02:55:19 PM »

bah, yet another reason not to use their software
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2007, 03:09:55 PM »

Agreed Chris. Although I'm sure that MS is right, there probably are 235 patents that various open source software violates, I doubt that many, if any, of them are legally enforcible. IMHO this is more or less a marketing attack to scare off corporations from using OSS.

Of course I could be completely wrong, but given Microsoft's track record with such things and their refusal to disclose what patents are being violated, this looks like a lot of FUD to me.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2007, 11:45:22 AM »

Bill Hilf, general manager of platform strategy and director of Microsoft's work with open-source projects, answers questions on the whole Linux/MS/IP uproar in this article for InfoWorld and claims that MS qon't sue the Linux community:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/05/17/microsoft-wont-sue-over-Linux_1.html

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2007, 07:40:02 AM »

Well I'm certainly glad I won't have to give my lawyer friend in DC a call anytime soon, but I don't think that most people were afraid of any type of lawsuit to begin with. It seems that it's more of a PR stunt to scare businesses away from using Linux - again, I'd like to see the actual patents. It would also be pretty interesting to see pigs fly.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2007, 08:43:52 AM »

ohh pigs fly ln redmond
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2007, 10:10:06 AM »

Linus Torvalds says pretty much the same thing here:

Linus Torvalds Responds To Microsoft Patent Claims
InformationWeek , May 15, 2007
The holder of the Linux trademark suggests Microsoft should name the patents it alleges have been violated so the claims can be tested in court.

Along those same lines, here's another interesting article:

Who Owns Linux? Linus. . .And A Detergent Company In Switzerland
InformationWeek , May 21, 2007
In case you were wondering--and I was, given the noises Microsoft has been making lately about the open-source operating system--Linus Torvalds does indeed own the trademark on Linux. Interestingly, so does Rosch, a detergent company based in Switzerland...

I'll spare you the "clean" jokes.

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2007, 02:12:17 PM »

5 bucks on Torvalds Wink
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