Image
 
linkedin_logo.png rss_logo.jpg
twitter_logo.png youtube_logo.jpg
Latest Additions
 
EH-Net Login
Welcome Guest.






Lost Password?
No account yet? Register
Who's Online
We have 28 guests and 2 members online
 
Advertisement

You are here: Home arrow Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certificationsarrow Network Pen Testingarrow Wireless APs mapping/plotting
EH-Net
May 23, 2013, 03:08:31 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Go back to The Ethical Hacker Network Online Magazine Home Page
 
   Home   Help Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Wireless APs mapping/plotting  (Read 8138 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
LK
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 29


View Profile
« on: May 04, 2007, 09:42:40 AM »

Hello everybody,

Lately I’ve done some wardriving sessions through the company’s premises to discover if there are any rogue access points attached to the wired network.

I discovered some APs but what I am interested in is how I can map/plot these APs into something like Google Earth.

I am using Backtrack with Kismet as software, and a laptop + Ubiquity card with external antenna as hardware.

I know about the solution with a GPS receiver that works pretty well with Kismet, but since I don’t have such a GPS device yet I was wondering if there are any other alternative solutions for doing this instead of using a GPS.

Thanks in advance for you answers.
Logged

Security+, OSCP, CISM, CISSP
Craig
EH-Net Columnist
Jr. Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 69


View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 03:30:07 PM »

A topographic map and a protractor.  Roll Eyes
Logged

LSOChris
Guest
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 08:32:30 PM »

lol

map and some darts?

seriously though, if you know the lat/long, you should be able to plot it inputting it into any of those wardriving mapping programs by hand jamming it into the appropriate format for the program.  i'd buy a GPS device before i went thru all that trouble though, they are fairly cheap.
Logged
LK
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 29


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2007, 02:06:12 AM »

Thanks for your replies guys.

But I was interested in alternative methods that I can use to detect and map the AP.

From what I know the GPS method has some limitations - it can't be used to detect AP inside buildings.

If someone can give me a valuable hint I'll greatly appreciate.




Logged

Security+, OSCP, CISM, CISSP
slimjim100
EH-Net Columnist
Sr. Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 385



View Profile WWW
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2007, 07:10:14 AM »

With any RF signal you can track it by signal strength. I have used Netstumbler before to find rouge AP's in buildings. There is also paid tools like Airmagnet Mobile. Just use SNR with a few different wifi nic's and antennas to find the AP you are looking for.

Brian
Logged

CISSP, CCSE, CCNA, CCAI, Network+, Security+, JNCIA, & MCP
oleDB
Recruiters
Full Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 236



View Profile WWW
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2007, 02:30:01 PM »

Using a paid solution, you can use multiple Wireless IDSes to triangulation the postion, this is even more accurate then GPS. This is gonna be way expensive, your best bet is to get your company to buy and inexpensive USB GPS device and use it with Kismet. It will give you inbuilding mapping, just not as accurate as triangulation with multiple cards in multiple locations. Or you could go crazy and build a wifi gun like the Shmoo did a few years back at DEFCON.
Logged
dean
Guest
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2007, 02:36:49 PM »

If you don't want to go the Wireless IDS route there are a couple of options. You can do it manually by collecting Signal and Noise data (SNR) for AP or Station that you are trying to locate. Grab some plans of your location and start walking around plotting as many points as you can, recording the SNR data. I use the prism2 cards with wlan-ng drivers. They have a reporting mode that provides this information.

Kismet will also report signal strength information for you but it does not have any historical data. But you can follow the signal strength and attempt to locate the rogue. A directional antenna will help a lot here. In Kismet press "s" to change the sort mode then press "i" to see the signal strengh for the Ap you selected.

Nessus includes an AP fingerprinting plugin that is not too bad.
Alternately you can do wired side analysis of MAC prefixes. You will need to know the MAC addresses of your legitimate APs. I think the IEEE has a nice database of Wireless Manufacturers OUIs.

Even using a method like triangulation you will not be 100% accurate. there will be discrepancies created by RF interference and signal loss to name a few.

I'm not too sure how you would use a GPS indoors (it requires line of sight to a satellite) I guess you could use it while outside and attempt to plot the coordinates on plans of your location.

Whatever method you choose you will really only have an approximate idea of where the rogue lies.

hth,

-dean-
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.09 seconds with 22 queries.
 
Exclusive Deal

sansfire13_245x90_cw90.jpg
SANSFIRE 2013
June 15 - 22

5% Off w/ Code: EHN_5

SANS Deals 4 EH-Netters
5% OFF Any SANS Course in Any Format!
Coupon Code: EHN_5 Including SANS Rocky Mountain 2013 & SANS Boston 2013
Polls
Compared to this year, 2013 will be:
 
Recent Forum Topics
EH-Net News Feeds
Latest Additions
 
         
Advertisement

© 2013 The Ethical Hacker Network
Joomla! is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL License.